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07-03-2017 03:14 PM  4 months agoPost 21
RabbitDFFD

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Claremore, Oklahoma​- USA

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No offense intended by all means. . It's awesome to meet someone that's been in the hobby for that long. . Wish you were in the states MDSCUSTOMS, I'd buy you whatever meal and as many drinks you'd want just to hear you talk about the way things USE TO BE. . . BRAVO!!

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07-04-2017 12:33 AM  4 months agoPost 22
MDSCUSTOMS

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North Wales, U.K.

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Thanks Guys, No offence taken - I'm not quite ready for the museums yet though as I am only 54

Rabbit, I wish I could take you up on your offer, I'd be quite happy to do that. I own quite a few classic vintage machines now so they would no doubt be of great interest

The Heli was fully restored back to flying condition by me last year, it was an ebay purchase and was in a very sorry state when I bought it. The main thing is that it was all there and the main drive gear was brand new and unused. I can only presume it was bought as a replacement but never fitted.

The pic below shows the condition of it when I bought it.

Mark

I'm only here coz I'm not all there !!

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07-11-2017 01:26 PM  4 months agoPost 23
Thoemse

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Dornbirn

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I am mostly flying my T-rex 700x. My protos 500 gets airtime if i need to have batts charged quickly. My 450 is gathering dust on the shelf.

In my flying club I only ever saw a 450. The other guys fly 480, 550 or 700 sized helis.

Many wrote that small helis can do everything that big helis can. They mostly can (nothing small autorotates like my 700X though) but they lack the sound and they are a pain to work on.

I'd never want to go back to 450 (never had anything smaller).
The smallest heli I'd buy nowadays would be a 550 for the single 6S pack convenience.

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07-11-2017 04:09 PM  4 months agoPost 24
Ladymagic

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South Korea

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I believe people need to put more effort into learning the discipline of hovering, accuracy in takeoff and landing, accurate circuits and approaches.
Many people enter our hobby now wanting to be instant 3d hot shots and have little to no patience or discipline in the baby steps required to become a safe and reliable operator. The risks can be greatly reduced through sensible setups and being patient.
I say this all the time to prospective new pilots who ask me to teach them. I would rather not waste my time on the ones who just want to learn enough to get off ground so they can slam their machine around doing half-a$$ "3D." I typically weed out about 90% of them just from that conversation and another 5% after a couple of training sessions when they realize I am not going teach them 3D at their first attempt to hover. The remaining 5% are serious enough to stick through the "boring" stuff and really learn to fly well.

I would love to fly with you at your field, just based on your statements. I think I would have a great time. I get stressed out when I'm at a site with a pilot obviously knows very little of the basic skills, learned every single bad habit and safety "no no" in the book, and is all over the place doing 3D.

Have a good one

Mellisa

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07-11-2017 04:11 PM  4 months agoPost 25
EEngineer

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TX

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My helis seem to be getting smaller.....and they're the same physical size....

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07-12-2017 05:39 PM  4 months agoPost 26
artimus

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Buckley WA

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I have several helis and the big ones get the most air time...because they are easier to see in the air...the smallest i fly now is a Goblin 380 because it looks so big in the air.
Smaller helis are good in tight spaces but not so good in larger spaces...

Fly Hard......Team Viagra

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07-13-2017 12:30 AM  4 months agoPost 27
Heli Fanatix

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Fountain Valley, CA

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I agree this is a Hobby and people want to have fun.

However the formula for fun is:
Things working = Enjoyment of the Hobby.

I agree it takes a lot of discipline to excel in this hobby. Sure you're free to do what you please but there is a way to "DO IT RIGHT"

I've been in this hobby since 91'
- I knew the importance of a SIM
- but back in 91' ... 386 personal was the best they got
- good luck running a SIM on that platform
- understanding how everything works is key point
- this is where coaching & mentoring comes in

Anything smaller than a 550 was not an option until mid 2000's
- you can't just pick up a micro and fly anywhere you please
- flying a heli was the Mount Everest of the RC Heli World
- you had to find someone to take you under their wing at the airfield and go through the steps

Smaller heli's is a good concept, however it's practicality may have it's limitations.
- I've seldom found anyone that flew a 450 (or smaller) that flew a 550 and stayed with micros

- Smaller heli's is a mosquito at an appropriate sized airfield

So those that do it "RIGHT"
- understand what size heli to fly

And those that "Don't know what they should know"
- feels a micro is the way to go.

These are just my personal observations when trying to teach would be RC Heli Pilots to fly for the past many many moons.

This is what separates between the ones that "fly" and the ones that can "REALLY THROW IT DOWN"

... so in the end, let each one do their thing until they "ASK". Even than, be prepared for them not to take your advice. People do what they want to do based on their current "MINDSET & MENTALITY".

- Scott

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07-14-2017 05:15 AM  4 months agoPost 28
MDSCUSTOMS

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North Wales, U.K.

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Quite happy with the size range that I have now which is mostly 600 size. I have a little V912 to mess about with if I want to fly something small and fun for a warm up.

Meanwhile, the scale builds continue - Current project is a 600 size Lynx AH7. It is the old Morley kit complete with Morley mechanics. Won't be long before this one is complete. Just adding extra fittings and completing the camouflage paint job now.

I have a choice of door machine guns or TOW Missile pods to fit on this one, they are already made up.

Mark

I'm only here coz I'm not all there !!

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07-17-2017 08:15 AM  4 months agoPost 29
Propilot

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Red​Deer,Alberta,canada

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I like your rivet work on that one.

Wayne Mitchell

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07-19-2017 01:28 AM  4 months agoPost 30
MDSCUSTOMS

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North Wales, U.K.

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Thanks Wayne,

Just doing all the final fittings now and the rest of the camouflage as each section is completed.

Regards

Mark

I'm only here coz I'm not all there !!

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07-29-2017 01:00 AM  3 months agoPost 31
PilotPin

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Indiana -- USA

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After working with helicopter for 9 yrs I have settled with the 600 n and 360 and smaller electric. The 700ns got to be out of my budget range. Parts and fuel consumption. Same with larger electrics . Parts cost and batteries plus the equipment to maintain the batteries.

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07-29-2017 05:02 AM  3 months agoPost 32
JurassicJet

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WI

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I have been messing around with helis for the past 6 or so years or so. Started with a T-rex 450 and then the next one was a 600. I thought the 450 was cool, but when I started flying the 600 I was blown away at how smooth it flew. My 450 ended up sitting on the shelf more often than not.
I discovered though that the 450 was very hard to see beyond what I would call a nominal distance. I was loosing orientation which would make my heart miss a few beats. Didn't like that.

I basically quite flying helis for the last 1 to 1.5 years, but got back into it in a big way with some scale birds. This summer I bought a 700 size AS350 and just added a 700 size Bell 429 to my fleet along, which look good sitting next to my 700 size Bell 222. I will probably never go smaller. Oh, also purchased a Jeti DS-16 last week. Spent somewhere around $5K in the last 10 weeks or so.

Since politics was brought up in post 8 brought up I will chime in. I was a Republican. This current administration is an embarrassment to our country. If anyone thinks that Trump is going to make "America Great" again, is sorely mistaken, unless dividing our country and becoming a racist is "great", well, then you might have a point. As far as economics, people in need will NEVER benefit from this current President. In fact, most of the people that voted for Trump will most likely end up getting hurt by his policies, especially if they repeal the ACA.

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07-29-2017 05:19 AM  3 months agoPost 33
EEngineer

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TX

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"Since NeverHappy brought up politics I will chime in."

Huh?

"NeverHappy" never posted on this thread....

Furthermore, what the heck does Trump or your opinion of him have to do with smaller helis?

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07-29-2017 03:43 PM  3 months agoPost 34
JurassicJet

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Sorry EE. I had my threads crisscrossed. It was not "Never happy". I will correct that.

But, in post 8 of thread there is mention of how our POTUS is going to equalize the wealth differential in this country, which is what I was referring to.

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07-29-2017 05:27 PM  3 months agoPost 35
EEngineer

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TX

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"Sorry EE. I had my threads crisscrossed. It was not "Never happy". I will correct that."

NP...just saying...

You'll have plenty to discuss your feelings in the OTP section, though....LOL

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