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06-23-2017 05:02 PM  89 days agoPost 21
spaceman spiff

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As far as fanatics ALL religions have them.
Maybe we don't have enough fanatics.

There are over 300 million folks here and the example you gave is from 20 years ago.... What we need is a few dozen bombings and a bunch of dull machete beheadings up in here.

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06-23-2017 05:44 PM  89 days agoPost 22
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And that statement right there proves you know nothing about Islam.
You are not bright. I lecture religious topics, and an education is required.

You have no education on the topic.
And if you want to discuss bible text, lets talk about how there are more ways and reasons to be put to death in the Christian bible than in the Quran.
This shows how uneducated you are, most people do not read the text literally.

By your own admission Christians and Jews should be the most violent but they are not. So lets talk about why you don't have a clue but flap your gums like a fool making noise with no real meaning
ut of course you won't acknowledge that fact, or you will give the same old tired excuse that it is only in the Old Testament and no one follows that part of the bible, even though it is the Word of God
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This shows your idiocy, Israelites wrote and redacted the books for a thousand years. No god, not your personal mythical god HAS EVER WRITTEN A SINGLE WORD.

So factually the books were written by men not a damned myth YOU know nothing about.

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06-23-2017 05:52 PM  89 days agoPost 23
outhouse

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Maybe we don't have enough fanatics.
Were are talking about levels of fanaticism.

In Judaism most Jews are not literal reading nutjobs, when you get to orthodox Jews YES the levels of fanaticism are stupid high.

Christianity has 40% nutjob rate with stupid young earth creationist who are all possessing high levels of fanaticism.

ALL of islam possess high levels of fanaticism.

The problem with islam is there is no real islam or normal islam, there is no control, no organization. There is only sectarian violence ALL over different interpretations of text that the context was lost a long time ago. Much of their book has no meaning no matter how its read.

The other problem is how stupid these cultures are, the eat dirt they are so stupid and live primitive myths, they hold the highest illiteracy rates and breed like rats.

Fanaticism does not mean violence will take place, but it is grease to the path of violence. something these liberal PC jerks will never understand

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06-23-2017 06:04 PM  89 days agoPost 24
spaceman spiff

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talking about levels of fanaticism.
Exactly. Here is the wierd thing. If i say something that a liberal can twist into something against the almighty political corectness doctrines, racism or sexism for example, i get blasted with a flame thrower of hate in order to save the world from hate... If instead, i chop off heads, abuse women, call for elimination of jews, murder random people, move to another country and start setting up sharia law, that same liberal will defend my rights.

They even will import these extreem racist, sexist, jihadist leaning, folks in mass and call it "an enrichment program". Honestly, how can anyone reason with such lunatics?

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06-23-2017 06:47 PM  89 days agoPost 25
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Religion in itself seems more like a societal construct to instill fear, manipulate, and control the masses more than a blue print to heaven IMHO.

I do believe in God and I do believe there is a spirituality to our existence. But through the centuries of history, I see there are countless occasions where one religion attempts to oppress or control another religious group and it nearly almost always ends in violence and death...many times in masses.

The perpetrators can be Christian, Islamic, Catholic, or what ever your flavor is. Christians have been known to terrorize other groups for the purposes of fear and coercion just like Islam. Timothy McVeigh was one just off the time of my head. Oh, and the KKK who claim Christianity as their core faith is another. They routinely twisted bible scripture to validate lynching, spreading hate, and terrorizing minorities for decades. They would still be doing it if they could as freely as they used to. They bombed whole communities of other God fearing Christians that simply didn't look like them. They killed and tortured woman and children just the same. Sound familiar? By definition, they were domestic terrorists. Are all Christians bad? Of course not.

I don't believe any one religion is better or worse than another because the end game of most religion is to learn to lead better lives and exercise our need for spiritual understanding. It's human nature to desire to control others. We do it through various methods. Violence and religious manipulation are just a couple of countless ways we do that. Islam does not kill people, religious zealots do. Christianity doesn't kill people either, religious zealots do.

You can't just paint a broad brush to say that Islam is evil and then be offended when a someone of Islamic faith says that Christianity is evil also. Serves no purpose other than to perpetuate more senseless death. No one but God should have the right to take life that he himself has given. This is a scary time we live in where little girls are blown up at a concert for nothing. Those who did that are cowards but I also know not everyone from a faith is responsible for the act of one or a few persons.

I am not for or against any faith I just don't like to see whole groups of people painted into a box like I have heard in some of the posts here.

Can we not just agree to disagree and see who gets to heaven and who doesn't? Just my thoughts.

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06-23-2017 08:02 PM  89 days agoPost 26
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religion should be outlawed... simple answer

anyone, any group or any object that imposes it, or affects others with it directly or indirectly shall be put to death or destroyed.

faith shall come from within ONLY, no grouping, public displays or advertisement of such will be tolerated.

hows that?

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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06-23-2017 08:24 PM  89 days agoPost 27
spaceman spiff

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Here is a lovely one for atheists.
The USSR anti-religious campaign of 1928–1941 was a new phase of anti-religious persecution in the Soviet Union following the anti-religious campaign of 1921–1928. The campaign began in 1929, with the drafting of new legislation that severely prohibited religious activities and called for a heightened attack on religion in order to further disseminate atheism. This had been preceded in 1928 at the fifteenth party congress, where Joseph Stalin criticized the party for failure to produce more active and persuasive anti-religious propaganda. This new phase coincided with the beginning of the forced mass collectivization of agriculture and the nationalization of the few remaining private enterprises.

Many of those who had been arrested in the 1920s would continue to remain in prison throughout the 1930s and beyond.

The main target of the anti-religious campaign in the 1920s and 1930s was the Russian Orthodox Church, which had the largest number of faithful. Nearly all of its clergy, and many of its believers, were shot or sent to labour camps. Theological schools were closed, and church publications were prohibited.[1] More than 85,000 Orthodox priests were shot in 1937 alone.[2] Only a twelfth of the Russian Orthodox Church's priests were left functioning in their parishes by 1941.[3]

In the period between 1927 and 1940, the number of Orthodox Churches in the Russian Republic fell from 29,584 to less than 500.
There have been several of these campaigns spanning most of the last 100 years.

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06-23-2017 08:29 PM  89 days agoPost 28
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Honestly, how can anyone reason with such lunatics?
You cannot.

They have been brainwashed since birth to avoid reality and truth, and promote myths and fiction as real events without question.

Its the same lack of reasoning and logic that young earth creationist use to refuse facts

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06-23-2017 08:31 PM  89 days agoPost 29
outhouse

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Here is a lovely one for atheists.
While true it was used as rhetoric.

Stalins motivations were more political, and in the overall scheme of things, he murdered millions compared to a few thousand for religious beliefs.

Remember Stalin was raised Christian, maybe that's why he was a lunatic?

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06-23-2017 08:37 PM  89 days agoPost 30
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He was an atheist, and a lunatic, and he did not shoot 85,000 preists by himself. Atheism is inhererenty evil. Welcome to the club of evil by historical association.

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06-23-2017 08:38 PM  89 days agoPost 31
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Timothy McVeigh was one just off the time of my head.
That is an ignorant quote on your part.

His crimes were not religious in nature, they factually were political.
and the KKK who claim Christianity as their core faith is another
Yet the religion factually is not what is guiding they racism, racism is.
They routinely twisted bible scripture to validate lynching, spreading hate, and terrorizing minorities for decades
Without the book they would have done the same exact crimes.

Much different then Islamic terrorism, which is religiously motivated more so then political
I don't believe any one religion is better or worse than another
because you do not have the education to be able understand the or even comprehend differences
No one but God should have the right to take life that he himself has given
idiocy and has no reason or logic, being we factually have never4 been able to attribute a single death to a your own god, let alone any other god. Nor has there ever been a single death we can attribute to any single deity out of thousands man has created.

Factually no life has ever been given by your mythical theology

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06-23-2017 08:44 PM  89 days agoPost 32
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He was an atheist, and a lunatic, and he did not shoot 85,000 preists by himself. Atheism is inhererenty evil. Welcome to the club of evil by historical association.
Raised to be a priest with Christian values and morals

late 1888, when Stalin was ten, he enrolled at the Gori Church School.[27] This was normally reserved for the children of clergy

Stalin proceeded to the Spiritual Seminary in Tiflis.

During World War II, the Church was allowed a revival as a patriotic organization, and thousands of parishes were reactivated

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06-23-2017 08:49 PM  89 days agoPost 33
outhouse

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he did not shoot 85,000 preists
It was much more priest then that

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perse...he_Soviet_Union

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06-23-2017 09:49 PM  89 days agoPost 34
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BUT...Did you all watch the videos before getting on each other throats?
I have finished watching both. Did not like either; and in my opinion, the second one was worse. I have no respect for pseudo scientists who mock people. I will research his name and work before stating my opinion about the dude. He lost me when he bad- mouthed Vanderbilt.
I should say that there are several statements mentioned in both lectures that I found really interesting. However, and until they are supported with reliable sources, one should be careful to parrot them and use them to support one's narrative.
I was wondering why did you post those two videos particularly? Do you agree with what was portrayed? Again, in my opinion, both lectures are anything but emotional/biased rather than scientific/historical.
Many here agree that religion has caused one too many issues throughout human history. Needless to say that there are positive things too. Human nature is complicated; killing has been and will be with us likely forever.


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06-24-2017 12:12 AM  89 days agoPost 35
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Thank you for what you are doing. I have seen you tube videos of your group's service. Thank you.
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06-24-2017 12:24 AM  89 days agoPost 36
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An honor and a pleasure Sir. Raising a nice cool Blue Hawaii beverage in your direction.

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06-24-2017 12:48 AM  89 days agoPost 37
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I thought that I felt a cool breeze! Thanks

I was at a friend's promotion ceremony this morning. I sure felt proud to be an American. He made Major and is rising the ranks. So many good Americans make it easier to deafen the sound of the crazy element.

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06-24-2017 06:36 AM  89 days agoPost 38
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I think bowties look dorky.....

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