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06-11-2017 04:05 PM  12 days agoPost 1
EEngineer

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Find yourself fumbling for the "reset" button before going to pick up the pieces?

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06-11-2017 04:58 PM  12 days agoPost 2
Aswick3

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Lol^ most likely! That just happened to me yesterday, I was out trying a diff battery for my 230s, good 20-25 ft up in the air probably for a minute or two, then all of a sudden the heli started going into a rapid spin-downwards! Ut oh!!! Panic... throttle hold... try to save it... what next... lol
Anyways, nothing broke on it I just hovering putting around when it did that. I looked at the heli afterwards and the tail gave out. One of the wires from the esc, blue wire to be exact, came undone at the soldered part of the esc. Weird, I've never seen that happen where the wire just comes off like that. Must've been a bad connection? Idk? Helis not that old, and has minimum flights, I don't think it was my error.
Point is, I probably looked all freaked out trying to land this thing before it's gonna crash!

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06-11-2017 05:12 PM  12 days agoPost 3
EEngineer

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"One of the wires from the esc, blue wire to be exact, came undone at the soldered part of the esc. "

I had that happen....at the soldered joint at the ESC, that is....

The reason that happens is that with the vibrations, the wire will break after a while....where the solder ends on the wire.

To prevent that from happening, you must add a "strain relief" on the wire...."ahead" of the solder joint.

Tie wrap...even some epoxy...anything to prevent the wire to solder joint from moving....

Do this on ANY ESC that doesn't have such a strain relief.

It's such a simple preventative fix....this should be mandatory on such ESCs....and I don't know why the manufacturers don't do this.

If you have other similar ESCs....I highly recommend retrofitting this "fix"....

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06-11-2017 05:14 PM  12 days agoPost 4
EEngineer

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The closer to the wire/solder joint the better...

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06-11-2017 05:18 PM  12 days agoPost 5
EEngineer

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And, since you mentioned this, some ESCs have those large electrolytic capacitors "hanging" off the ESC's PCB.

Not good....for the same reason....the capacitor leads can break over time from the vibes.

Use some epoxy to "glue" the cap to the PCB to prevent the leads from fracturing over time.

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06-11-2017 05:36 PM  12 days agoPost 6
Aswick3

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Ahh, very good information! Thanks! That makes sense now, bc I was looking at it and was saying to myself, how did this even happen!? Why did it happen!? Lol.
But no, that's awesome information I appreciate it. Better to have that happen I guess on a small cheaper heli than something that's big and expensive, before knowing what the 'fix' is to prevent it from happening again. Like I said, before that I had no idea why that happened.
Good stuff!

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06-11-2017 06:19 PM  12 days agoPost 7
EEngineer

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Just my 2 cents.....

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06-12-2017 11:34 AM  11 days agoPost 8
learnedthehrdwy

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I agree, definitely sounds like you lost the tail and with the 230 usually the esc is to blame.If you crashed it before sometimes the tail wires get chewed up and short right where they enter the boom. Something to check if your esc looks okay.

That's the problem with Blade helis. Cheap to buy and the micros crash well but they'll break/fail without crashing quite often.

With a good quality kit heli if you did your homework and built it correctly plus outfitted it with sufficient electronics, it will always work until you break stuff in a unscheduled landing.

Like my 230s but if I really push hard it will bug out now n then. Aileron servo on mine half quit last weekend midflight so I had to land with it pulling hard to the right.

Was fine after I unplugged then plugged it back in but that's something that simply doesn't happen with my other helis. Even the ones with HobbyKing esc's and servos.

Got lucky with my 180cfx as it's been a little warrior but the 7 other Blade helis I've owned were problematic. Cheap to buy but nickel and dime me to death over time

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06-12-2017 02:59 PM  11 days agoPost 9
EEngineer

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That's what Blade did for me.....finally got fed up and bought a Logo....

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06-12-2017 04:16 PM  11 days agoPost 10
GyroFreak

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When I crash.....
I cuss, stomp the ground like a baby, call myself a few choice names, then make the slow walk of shame, pick up the mess, continue to mumble to myself a lot of self accusatory statements, then some more blasphemy words, and go home.

I think about the hereafter. I go somewhere to get something, then wonder what I'm here after ?

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06-12-2017 04:26 PM  11 days agoPost 11
EEngineer

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LOL....just get it out of your system.....

BTW....what's your "hang time" on TX "hurling"?

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06-12-2017 06:41 PM  11 days agoPost 12
Andy from Sandy

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You have past 5000 posts but still not rrProf. Did you upset Mark?

Maybe only "Normal" posts count so only another 716 to go!

Are you after getting to 10000 for rrMaster before Mark pulls the site?

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06-12-2017 06:45 PM  11 days agoPost 13
EEngineer

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I'm sorry to have upset anyone, Andy....

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06-12-2017 07:25 PM  11 days agoPost 14
Andy from Sandy

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I am far from upset. A bit tongue in cheek with the comment based on your activity recently.

You are going to struggle though as current post count sees you needing over 100days. lol.

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06-12-2017 07:27 PM  11 days agoPost 15
EEngineer

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NP, Andy....

Be careful not to hurt your tongue....

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06-13-2017 11:56 AM  10 days agoPost 16
learnedthehrdwy

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Speaking of Blade, #1 in part sales by design. I see they still make sure the boom doesn't clamp in securely to increase part sales.

Had the boom slip on flight #5 on my 180 resulting in a POD on to asphalt when it was February and 7°F out. Today the boom shot right out of my 230 on a full collective , tightly looping half flip transitioning from inverted to upright which resulted in a boomstrike and tumble straight into the dirt

Luckily the only damage was a taco'd boom and a broken tail prop but it's still very annoying since I've tightened those screws on many occasions in a short period of time. Not something you should have to do every 5-10 flights imo.

I don't get too upset over an occasional dumb thumb but nothing pisses me off more than when a heli crashes itself. Suppose it's partially my fault since the tail fin looked a little cocked to the side after I put the last pack in but I ignored it since I had checked those screws recently.

Not sure if this is a common issue or mine got it's a-hole reamed out by the previous owner? Will definitely be using some goop for insurance when I fix it. A Microheli front tail case cured the issue on the 180 but that would obviously require replacing the frame on the 230.

Oh well, to be expected from a $120 used heli so I shouldn't whine too much lol

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06-13-2017 01:14 PM  10 days agoPost 17
rpat

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The only one of the blade helis that I have found to work well is the 180....the rest of them you can mop the floor with. also the 230 works fairly well.

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06-13-2017 01:24 PM  10 days agoPost 18
PaulBowen

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If I crash one of my JR machines I immediately start sh$ting bricks!

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06-13-2017 05:42 PM  10 days agoPost 19
learnedthehrdwy

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I've had very good luck with the 180 as well but not sure about the 230 yet. Already bugged out a few times just from running 100% flat and doing FFF with collective maxed out and a few loops thrown in. One of the servos will stop working properly and it will drift really hard.

Always worked again after reinitializing it but have a feeling it will bug out permanently someday.

Has happened 3× in under 30 flights. Spitting out the boom didn't impress me either but some liquid electrical tape or rubber cement should prevent that from happening again although it'll look like shat.

Only bought it to beat on so looks aren't a concern. Got a Lynx CF boom for it since it was cheaper than the stock boom, hopefully it's a little thicker so the frame clamps down on it better.

FWIW the 450x didn't treat me bad either but I didn't have it very long and I've heard the pro series/500x-700x weren't bad.

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06-13-2017 06:18 PM  10 days agoPost 20
EEngineer

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"Spitting out the boom didn't impress me either but some liquid electrical tape or rubber cement should prevent that from happening again although it'll look like shat."

Can you instead try putting some scotch tape...or a little thicker tape, depending....on the boom shaft where it fits into the frame?

Then the frame will "hide" the fix....kinda like enlarging the boom diameter at the boom clamp....

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