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06-03-2017 05:31 PM  4 months agoPost 41
RM3

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Let us get to the root of the problem: Free Speech.
actually... the problem has more to do with things like morals, empathy and self centeredness... Free Speech is just the outlet to such behavior we are now seeing. Mental cases liker her and others of her "type" all suffer from conditions such as narcissism and or are at some level of sociopaths, psychopaths.... and alot of this come about due to group think and generally un-controlled radical behaviors that fall way out of what is generally considered normal by the masses.

there seems to be a growing number of these wingnuts congregating in the media and especially hollywood. And this is because they are very good at attracting other like them, and these groups tend to support each other in varios ways (unlike conservatives that tend to avoid such behavior). Its a frame of mind where that they cant see any logic other than their own, are unable to connect the obvious actions and reactions around them, and generally live in their own little words where they truly believe they are righteous in the eyes of all others and anything that does not fit their logic is simply something to be destroyed despite the flaws in their thinking.

Granted Free speech gives people the right to say whatever they want, its up to the people then to take sole responsibility for whatever results occur from use of that right all while not infringing upon the rights of others.

the liberal wackaloons have managed to disconnect free speech from personal responsibility and the rights of others.... and that there is the problem

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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06-03-2017 06:47 PM  4 months agoPost 42
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I disagree, RM3, Free Speech is a non-negotiable right in the strictest sense. I only agree with you in regards to when it threatens the rights of others in the sense it put them at risk of violence or fearing for their lives. Then that isn't Free Speech, i's Hate Speech, because you are basically inciting violence or murder simply because you don't like/agree/hate whoever it is you are against.

Free Speech allows us to bring things out in the open, it may not solve some issues but at least it raises awareness of them and let the opposition and objectors see things that they might not see etc. . it also allows one to grow intellectually.

It's mainly repressed societies and dictatorships who would want to curb Free Speech because they fear it - and it's not surprising to see why.

Free Speech allows the society which follows it to evolve and understand and come to their own conclusions, it lets them grow. Most of Western technological advancement was simply because of Free Speech, or the concept instilled on the masses that freedom of thought was a given without having to worry about the fear of death or being silenced into submission, because when that happens progress isn't really possible.

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06-03-2017 08:54 PM  4 months agoPost 43
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Free speech is kinda like a fat man wearing a speedo...yes everyone is free to do that...but just because you CAN doesn't always mean you SHOULD.

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06-03-2017 09:16 PM  4 months agoPost 44
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Free speech is kinda like a fat man wearing a speedo...yes everyone is free to do that...but just because you CAN doesn't always mean you SHOULD.
That is ALL that matters. There are loads of people I disagree with, doesn't mean they are not allowed to say the things they do. And it doesn't mean that I need to be around to hear what they say or give any respect to what they say - but they still have the right to say it.

The case of fat man wearing speedos is false equivalence. It could be that minors object to his attire or that it is psychologically threatening or disgusts them as a natural reaction so laws prohibit it. Same thing with some public nude rambler in the UK who cited his Freedom of Expression to walk around naked, many parents objected because they don't want their kids to see him like that in the interests of public decency.

In the middle ages a man was hung drawn and quartered because he dared to suggest that the earth revolved around the sun, what a retarded society that was. . .

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06-03-2017 10:07 PM  4 months agoPost 45
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Before Kathy Griffin pulled this stunt, she had already publicly said she was ready to go after Trump's youngest child, Barron.

Somewhere along the way, Kathy's friends should have helped her by letting her know that these types of actions might have a negative effect on her.

I suspect they just egged her on.

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06-03-2017 10:19 PM  4 months agoPost 46
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^^ in that case picking on a child to prove your views rather invalidates it, does it not?

She wouldn't dare go after reasoning adults with sufficient intellectual maturity because they would literally wipe the floor with her.

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06-03-2017 10:41 PM  4 months agoPost 47
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I hear you on the free speech... but its a right, that is supposed to be granted and guaranteed by a government that operates under the constitution... the government can choose to negate that right. After all rights are only agreements between two groups, the governed and the governing. A gun or threat of death can change that right at any moment. The constitution is nothing but a piece of paper which in essence is nothing more than a set of guidelines... its the people that make it worth something.

just look as the crap that is going on within our college campuses... free speech is only granted to the liberals... the conservatives are shut down by both the student body AND administrators... so Free speech is not a non-negotiable right in the strictest sense. No government has stepped in to enforce that right.

What worries me is that we are using the premise of free speech to do bad things...

Griffin will play the victim card as much as she can AND she WILL change the narrative to make her the patriot and the Administration or more precisely the old white men (aka Trump) the villain.

Those that come out to support her actions will identify themselves as patriots... but for whom I dont know, none of the hollywood elites live like we do, nor do they abide by the same rules.

I honestly hope that her career is destroyed... cause we need to make an example out of someone that this one sided BS has to stop.

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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06-04-2017 12:49 AM  4 months agoPost 48
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Griffin's right to free speech was NOT infringed upon. She is not facing criminal charges. A right to free speech does not mean you can say or do whatever you like and be immune to consequences of another nature.

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06-04-2017 01:57 AM  4 months agoPost 49
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^^ in that case picking on a child to prove your views rather invalidates it, does it not?
She wouldn't dare go after reasoning adults with sufficient intellectual maturity because they would literally wipe the floor with her.
She is no intelectual giant. If the kid had a few more months to get settled in he might wipe the floor with her himself if it was worth wasting a minute or two on it.

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06-04-2017 02:22 AM  4 months agoPost 50
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"Kathy's friends should have helped her "

Her "friends" are fake....fake friends, all of them....

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06-04-2017 02:23 AM  4 months agoPost 51
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The dimwitted liberal, Griffin was extremely disrespectful to the president of the United States. With her ISIS pose of a likeness of Trumps head.

The dimwit did not think about the public reaction to what she did.

She did not think about her home network, CNN losing advertisers, and other venue owners where her shows would play. These have dropped her like a hot rock.

She did not think about Trump's kid seeing the photo, or another child seeing it.

She did not think about the 62 million + people that voted for Trump that might go to her shows.

Yes she exercised free speech, but with exercising such wild free speech, responsibility comes along with it if the public decides that you went too far.

Now she wants to be the me me me victim. I don't feel sorry for her at all.

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06-04-2017 02:39 AM  4 months agoPost 52
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Actually she did think. She knew it was over the line, even told the photographer something to that effect. She probably also thought that she would enjoy the attention? Who knows? I am just glad she finnally found a way to be entertaining, even if it is a career ending fireball of stupidity.

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06-04-2017 03:03 AM  4 months agoPost 53
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RM3

the government can choose to negate that right.
Yep...in some cases the right to "life" has been terminated and this PC crap needs to come to an end.

Kathy Griffin needs a few nights in the pokey while the feds think about what the best course of action is...after all, she says she is getting threats...so maybe a 4' x 6' concrete cell for about six months would keep her safe until this all blows over.

We wouldn't want poor Kathy to be hurt would we?

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06-04-2017 03:07 AM  4 months agoPost 54
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Dillbert.
In his own sickening way that fat speedo guy rules!

Someday i will probably say to myself "Self, feck it. Let's gross out some folks! "

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06-04-2017 03:23 AM  4 months agoPost 55
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spaceman spiff

Someday i will probably say to myself "Self, feck it. Let's gross out some folks!
Please post up that video when you do it. I'll sure there are a few members waiting to see you in a speedo.

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06-04-2017 03:28 AM  4 months agoPost 56
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06-04-2017 03:34 AM  4 months agoPost 57
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06-04-2017 04:07 AM  4 months agoPost 58
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All I can say about this is thank God that she posted the Trump thing and not a sex video!
That really would have traumatized the nation's young men.

Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about!

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06-04-2017 05:10 AM  4 months agoPost 59
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some one that act's nice but is actually a bad person is called a Covert Narcissist, they are the worst of all because they will take a long time, even years to make you like them, then they will stab you in the back,, they have an agenda

as for Kathy I think she just got to big for her own head, now she has a little head

Jim
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06-04-2017 09:24 AM  4 months agoPost 60
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So glad the Trumps are ruining her life over this. Like she did not have anything to do with it, CRAZY woman.

Got to have my cup of heli in the morning.

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