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05-25-2017 01:07 PM  5 months agoPost 101
rpat

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"There are many multi-rotor operators that have never been a problem."

you want to know why that is.......IT'S BECAUSE THEY ARE PROBABLY ADHERING TO THE AMA GUIDE LINES AND ARE MEMBERS. the others are just toy buyers that have no idea what an AMA guide line is.

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05-25-2017 04:11 PM  5 months agoPost 102
EEngineer

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"Let the curmudgeons here be among our own kind."

LOL...

Next, they will want us to register our walking canes....

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05-25-2017 07:35 PM  5 months agoPost 103
jimm

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Just because helicopters and multi's all have transmitters doesn't mean we should be bunched into the same group...by rules, or by forum for that matter
I actually spent months when I started to learn to fly and yes while I do fly with a gyro on my tail rotor I do not believe in any of the other electronic flying aids like Spectrums SAFE receivers. I am the pilot not some electronic device. I do not want to be grouped in with a quad rotor.

The risk of crashing makes you become a better pilot. Crashing is part of the risk when flying, don't like it but it comes with the hobby.

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05-25-2017 08:42 PM  5 months agoPost 104
Heli_Splatter

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Don't flatter yourself. If you follow the rules on the FAA registration card, you don't need the AMA. With an estimated sales of 2.5 million drones sold per year, it is a sure bet that the majority are sold to NON AMA MEMBERS.
you want to know why that is.......IT'S BECAUSE THEY ARE PROBABLY ADHERING TO THE AMA GUIDE LINES AND ARE MEMBERS. the others are just toy buyers that have no idea what an AMA guide line is.

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05-25-2017 09:34 PM  5 months agoPost 105
EEngineer

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"Don't flatter yourself."

Please heed your own advice.....

I don't need the FAA to tell me what to do.

Especially when they're led by political appointees that know nothing else but how to bundle PAC money in order to be so appointed.

You are indeed an FAA shill, now aren't you?....

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05-26-2017 11:44 PM  4 months agoPost 106
Chris Bergen

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A long time Terry, which means I have the luxury of disagreeing with you...
Why do we need more rules and regulations? Were we having issues pre-DJI? I don't recall modelers being accused of overflying peoples property, snooping on people in their backyards or endangering folks by flying over them at sporting events. I don't remember modelers flying in close proximity to aircraft and airports. Who did do that? The Drone Weenies. These folks that fly stabilized multirotors created this problem and it's not my or the AMA's responsibility to rectify it.
I was simply answering your questions and correcting the information you included.

Yes, there WERE issues pre DJI. Yes, people WERE being accused of overflying.

Yes, our models WERE being flown autonomously before DJI, but in truth it did require a Ph.D. Student to make it all work... However, the DJI autopilots for helicopters (which preceded the "drones" by quite a few years) also made flying the helicopters very easy, autonomous, and giving waypoint BLOS capability.

Still enjoying the entertainment, so carry on...

Chris D. Bergen

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05-27-2017 03:16 AM  4 months agoPost 107
conbones

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Rush 750, cc120hv, vbar silverline
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05-27-2017 07:05 PM  4 months agoPost 108
TMoore

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A long time Terry, which means I have the luxury of disagreeing with you...
Right back at ya, I feel the same.
I was simply answering your questions and correcting the information you included.
Yes, there WERE issues pre DJI. Yes, people WERE being accused of overflying.
If you just extrapolate the increase in volume, the overflights from then to now had to increase by a substantial amount so how does registration prevent this?
Yes, our models WERE being flown autonomously before DJI, but in truth it did require a Ph.D. Student to make it all work... However, the DJI autopilots for helicopters (which preceded the "drones" by quite a few years) also made flying the helicopters very easy, autonomous, and giving waypoint BLOS capability.
The current level of automation in some small way has been proven by modelers and companies who used the first iterations of the Naza and Wookong's. There were lots of adventures let us say back then. Having said that, the difference in numbers is what counts, there are more Drone Weenies in the air now as opposed to back then when your systems required a college level undergrad to operate, so I ask again, how does registration make us safer considering the vast increase in volume of users?
Still enjoying the entertainment, so carry on...
I am so happy that I'm able to brighten your day.

Are y'all still producing kits or are you full blown commercial users only?

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05-27-2017 07:26 PM  4 months agoPost 109
EEngineer

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"college level undergrad to operate"

Well, they now have calculators...I had to use a slide-rule...

Anybody remember those "gadgets"?

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05-27-2017 08:47 PM  4 months agoPost 110
AirWolfRC

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Anybody remember those "gadgets"?
You mean those things that do addition of logs ?

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05-27-2017 10:36 PM  4 months agoPost 111
EEngineer

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Yes, among other things....

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05-28-2017 03:23 AM  4 months agoPost 112
Gearhead

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he were given slide-rules when I was a kid, I got sick of them a quit and sold my sled

Jim
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05-28-2017 06:22 PM  4 months agoPost 113
EEngineer

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"slide-rules "

Haha....did you have to register them?

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05-28-2017 06:27 PM  4 months agoPost 114
EEngineer

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Not having snow, all we had were "slip and slides" when we were kids.

Remember them?

Some of them went to become "slip and fall" lawyers...

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05-29-2017 02:08 PM  4 months agoPost 115
GyroFreak

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Off opening topic but ;
My old old 24 inch 'slipstick” is memorialized above my office door. Learned to use it it high school physics. It was my fathers as a flight engineer on B29 during WW2.

I think about the hereafter. I go somewhere to get something, then wonder what I'm here after ?

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05-29-2017 04:05 PM  4 months agoPost 116
EEngineer

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Awesome......

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05-29-2017 05:03 PM  4 months agoPost 117
AirWolfRC

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Off opening topic but ;
My old old 24 inch 'slipstick” is memorialized above my office door. Learned to use it it high school physics. It was my fathers as a flight engineer on B29 during WW2.
Maybe you want to donate that to an aviation museum ?

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05-29-2017 05:10 PM  4 months agoPost 118
BeltFedBrowning

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Then the museum would probably sell it.

perfer et obdura; dolor hic tibi proderit olim

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05-29-2017 06:11 PM  4 months agoPost 119
EEngineer

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"donate that "

Why?

It was his father's? A family heirloom.

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05-29-2017 06:36 PM  4 months agoPost 120
gmcullan

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Ah, yes. All through high school and college. My Post bamboo slide rule was my trusted sidekick.

Gerry Cullan,
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