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05-18-2017 11:36 PM  5 months agoPost 21
rcmiket

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So when nothing comes out of this will the Dem's drop i? Not in a million years.

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05-18-2017 11:41 PM  5 months agoPost 22
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Yet another pathetic looser troll on the model helicopter forum that has no input for the hobby. Looooooser.

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05-19-2017 12:18 AM  5 months agoPost 23
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So when nothing comes out of this will the Dem's drop i? Not in a million years.
Correct. 8 years from now many will still be gnashing their teeth and muttering angrily about Russians, and i will still be raising a freezing cold copper mug of Moscow Mule and saying "Better luck tomorrow Komrads. "

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05-19-2017 12:20 AM  5 months agoPost 24
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Yet another pathetic looser troll on the model helicopter forum that has no input for the hobby. Looooooser.
If you can't attack the message, attack the messenger

All of this is 100% self-inflicted by the Trump administration. But hey, he's a bankruptcy laden, egotistical, misogynistic former reality TV performer.

Who could have possibly seen this coming?

Res ipsa loquitur. Are you proud of Lyin' Don?

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05-19-2017 12:44 AM  5 months agoPost 25
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After giving this some thought I now think that it's a great idea! Now, get a special investigator on the Obama illegal unmasking crime and on the Clinton crime family and we'll have a good start.
They can assign one to Hillary's email secret sales and also on that meeting where they got the DOJ to get Comey to decide to not go after Hillary even though it is not his call. Comey needs investigating as well.

Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about!

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05-19-2017 01:06 AM  5 months agoPost 26
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Who could have possibly seen this coming?
Seriously!!! The left has attempted to block/obstruct this president since he was elected. What you snowflakes don't realize is your reaching for straws and just pissing the working man off! We that actually keep this country running on a day to day basis are tired of the liberal crap and voted a president in office that will try an fix it. It won't come easy with you blocking ass wipes, but it will come. MAGA PUCKERS!!!!

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05-19-2017 02:03 AM  5 months agoPost 27
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Who could have possibly seen this coming?
The Simpsons did......

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05-19-2017 06:07 AM  5 months agoPost 28
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ant_mb

What you snowflakes don't realize is your reaching for straws and just pissing the working man off! We that actually keep this country running on a day to day basis are tired of the liberal crap and voted a president in office that will try an fix it.
You are correct. The left wants to turn the US into Cuba or Venezuela.

90% of life is "showing up"

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05-19-2017 07:43 AM  5 months agoPost 29
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This entire Trump Russian "scandal" falls deeply into the category of trying to prove a negative. Proving something isn't is often very difficult. It is also a very powerful tool in politics for cultivating doubt and fear.

Russell's teapot is a bit of philosophy that says the burden of proof is on the person making the assertion to prove the assertion true and not on others to disprove it. Bertrand Russel wrote that "if he were to assert, without offering proof, that a teapot orbits the Sun somewhere in space between the Earth and Mars, I could not expect anyone to believe me solely because my assertion could not be proven wrong." The point of Russell's teapot is that there is no burden on anyone to disprove assertions. The burden lies with the person making the assertion and it is up to them to prove the idea true. To suggest there is a teapot in space simply because you can't prove there isn't, doesn't make it so.

-- The United States asked Iraq to PROVE they DIDN'T have weapons of mass destruction. We made the assertion they had WMD and asked them to prove us wrong. Proving they did have weapons would have been easy. Just produce one for inspection. Proving you don't have WMD is impossible. No amount of evidence would be enough to PROVE you don't have some somewhere. The Iraqis produced mountains of evidence suggesting they didn't but could not prove they didn't have some somewhere. We invaded and only proved we couldn't find them.

-- Hillary was in a position of PROVING she didn't have any more emails that hadn't already been reported. Proving she had unreported emails would have been as simple as producing more (and more were produced). Proving there weren't any more is impossible.

-- I assert that everyone on this forum has, at some point in their life, flown their helicopter with the blades on backwards. Now - prove I'm wrong. While you might produce mountains of evidence to suggest I'm wrong, you won't be able to prove it didn't happen. At some point you might be able to say that there is no evidence to suggest my assertion is correct but in the minds of people that want to believe me, that isn't the same as proof I'm not right. You won't be able to prove me wrong. You will only be able to say I'm most likely wrong.

-- Donald is now being asked to prove there is no inappropriate relationship with the Russians. Proving there IS improper relations would be as simple as producing an incriminating letter or phone transcript. The Democrats know that proving there isn't a scandal is impossible. For Democrats, there will always be a doubt and this will never completely go away for them. This Russian scandal is most likely a diversion tactic and by its very nature unlikely to go away quickly. At the very least it will feed those that want to see a reason to justify their loss and that alone justifies the cost.

"Well, Nothing bad can happen now."

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05-19-2017 10:12 AM  5 months agoPost 30
Witch.Duk

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I'm having a difficult time parsing this sentence:
The Democrats know that proving there is isn't a scandal in impossible.
But, there is significant evidence of members of the Trump campaign having improper contact with Russia during the campaign. Former General Flynn reported this to the Trump administration himself during the transition. Other evidence is well documented & reported. The special prosecutor was appointed by a republican. He didn't make this choice lightly.

No one is tasked with proving a negative.

Res ipsa loquitur. Are you proud of Lyin' Don?

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05-19-2017 02:53 PM  5 months agoPost 31
wjvail

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I'm having a difficult time parsing this sentence:
The Democrats know that proving there is isn't a scandal in impossible.
I've edited my post previous post to turn it into English. I need to stop writing at 2 in the morning. That should have read: "The Democrats know that proving there isn't a scandal is impossible."

But going on....
There is every possibility there IS a scandal. That is completely possible and could be PROVEN fairly quickly. A Special Prosecutor will be Trumps only hope of putting this behind him -but the best that could come from this is a finding that there is nothing to prove there ever was inappropriate communication. "There might have been. We just can't prove it" is the BEST possible outcome for the President.
...there is significant evidence of members of the Trump campaign having improper contact with Russia during the campaign.
I find one aspect of the current tabloid drama particularly interesting. Hypothetically, suppose I assert that all this is a scare tactic and is designed to distract and discredit. Suppose this is all designed to make the POTUS look like he is a puppet for Vladimir Putin. "Everybody panic! The President was in bed with Puti Put!" "Today's topic: The POTUS is a Russia and only in office because of rigged election! Now Discuss..."

The problem is that the then candidate Trump and his purported allies PROVED that Hilary, contrary to what she had reported, did have 10s of thousands of unreported emails. It won't serve the purpose to have the Special Prosecutor find the now POTUS and Russia had contact during the election and colluded to prove Hilary was a lair.

"Wait! What? What was that last part?"

That last part of the story has to change. Now the story is that he gave Top Secret material to the Russians. The SP is now looking in depth not to see if the Russians interfered with the election by providing 1,000s of emails Hilary said didn't exist, but instead is looking to see if The Donald is a puppet for the big scary Russian Red Hoard.

I freely admit that he could be a puppet for the Russians. I simply don't know (and neither does anyone else here). A SP could prove this to be true. On the other hand it will be nearly impossible to disprove this. For those that want to believe, there will never be enough evidence to PROVE he is simply conducting appropriate state business with the second largest super power on the planet.

If or when this Special Prosecutor ends his investigation and (potentially) finds there is NO evidence to PROVE there IS a scandal, there will still be uneasy doubt in the minds of those that don't support him.

There will also be a new nebulous loosely defined threat to be proven false (or true). I promises you. "Hubba, Hubba, Hubba!" "News flash." "Donald Trump loves small boys!" Now discuss! Prove he doesn't. "SP appointed to distract while the rabbit disappears..."

"Well, Nothing bad can happen now."

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05-19-2017 04:17 PM  5 months agoPost 32
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The special prosecutor was appointed by a republican. He didn't make this choice lightly.
I might add that to call deputy Attorney General, Rod J. Rosenstein a Republican doesn't tell the entire story. Mueller was appointed as special counsel for the Russian Investigation by the AG Rod Rosenstein. Rosenstein was overwhelmingly confirmed to be the next deputy Attorney General after a Senate vote that was 94-6. To say that Mueller was appointed by a Republican is a little disingenuous.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/25/polit...torney-general/

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05-19-2017 05:34 PM  5 months agoPost 33
Witch.Duk

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Ok, point taken. the special prosecutor was hired by a republican administration.

But, I'm pretty sure that Trump or Sessions wouldn't have hired any democrats for the Deputy Attorney General position.

Res ipsa loquitur. Are you proud of Lyin' Don?

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05-19-2017 07:20 PM  5 months agoPost 34
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The left wants to turn the US into Cuba or Venezuela
well i have used the words "America" and "Europeanized" together more than once before on the political page
It is also a very powerful tool in politics for cultivating doubt and fear
and when the government needs a diversion from something they don't want us to pay attention to

politics, it's a dirty game, but, if you don't mind getting a little "stink" on you, then it will be easy for you to play

Jim
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05-19-2017 07:33 PM  5 months agoPost 35
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I freely admit that he could be a puppet for the Russians. I simply don't know (and neither does anyone else here)
more likely it was Hillary that was culting with Putin

"culting" I made a new word

Jim
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05-20-2017 12:45 AM  5 months agoPost 36
rcmiket

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Watch at YouTube

Nothing to see here.
Mike

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05-20-2017 01:09 AM  5 months agoPost 37
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"attack the messenger "

Not at all....

In your case, it's "attack the troll"......

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05-20-2017 01:53 AM  5 months agoPost 38
Gearhead

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that's noT evidence
that's pretty much proof he did noT do it LOL

Jim
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05-20-2017 02:20 AM  5 months agoPost 39
Witch.Duk

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In your case, it's "attack the troll"......
Regardless of the name calling (an favorite tactic of Trump supporters here on RR), it doesn't change the message...

Latest Trump Tweet:
We're gonna have the very, very best impeachment of any impeachment in history. No one has ever seen anything like it. People everywhere are talking about it. My Special Prosecutor is the very, very specialist's ever! The ratings are gonna be so yuuuuuge! I don't know, but people are telling me Bill Clinton wishes his impeachment could have been as bigly. Sad! Believe me! China!

Res ipsa loquitur. Are you proud of Lyin' Don?

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05-20-2017 05:41 AM  5 months agoPost 40
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trolling, trolling, trolling....

keep them dogies trolling...

rawhide....

Trump used to play HS baseball...did you know that?

I'll bet he can still foul one off your upper deck....

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