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joshreynolds777

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Willis, Tx

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I've got beastx on almost all my birds. And just getting into some light 3D and inverted flight.
The roll rate is slow on the "sport" setting in the advanced setting menu or whatever they called it. As compared to how fast the helis roll in my
Sim (neXt) Even on my little 380 at HHS on sport mode it rolls really slowly.
I moved it down to the next setting, "pro" I believe. And on the bench I only noticed a slight speed difference in the swash movement. moved it on down to the last setting. "Extreme". And still looks about the same on the bench.
Do you guys think this will get the roll rate moving quicker out in the field ? Maybe this is common to not see the change much on the bench ?
Thoughts ?

Thanks

04-20-2017 05:36 AM
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Pistol_Pete

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Seffner, FL

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Remove EXPO in radio if any and test each setting in field.

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04-20-2017 05:52 AM
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dkshema

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Cedar Rapids, IA

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What you see on the bench does not reflect actual in-flight behavior.

Pitch, roll, and yaw rates are software-controlled gains that affect flight behavior based on control command input, motion and sensor feedback. These are dynamic behaviors that won't be seen with the heli sitting still in a static condition.

The settings are maximum rates that the gyros will allow the heli to move in each axis. Actual rate is based on the amount of stick deflection at the transmitter.

For instance, yaw rate (tail rotor) can be set such that for full rudder command, the gyro can be set to allow a maximum "spin rate"of the heli to be slow (let's say 100 degrees per second) for full rudder command, or set for something much faster (like 360 degrees per second) for the same full rudder command.

In either case, a rudder command of something less than full rudder will cause a slower "spin rate."

The rate setting that you enter is the maximum allowed rate, a "not to exceed" rate. This allows you to perform pirouettes that are agonizingly slow, or tornado fast, all based on how far from center the stick gets moved. The number you enter is the speed limit.

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04-20-2017 12:50 PM
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joshreynolds777

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Willis, Tx

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Thank you mr. Shema! That's exactly what I was hoping to hear. I best go back and just try one setting at a time to see where I like it

04-20-2017 01:12 PM
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Pistol_Pete

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Seffner, FL

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Page 28 on Manual

PARAMETER Letter G
Cyclics Response

Menu point ( G ) adjusts how aggressively the AR7200BX responds to cyclic commands (roll and pitch)

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04-21-2017 05:09 AM
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joshreynolds777

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Yep

04-21-2017 05:48 AM
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Richardmid1

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Leeds, England

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There is not a great deal of roll/flip rate difference between the modes, the biggest change is the expo so the Extreme setting has little if any expo whereas Sport mode has A LOT!

The way to increase the roll/flip rate is to use Transmitter mode and simply adjust your dual rates % for aileron and elevator in your TX and also add your own expo.

FWIW I use 125% dual rates (max for Spektrum) and 20-25% expo and I fly thumbs. Roll/flip rate will also increase with increased head speed or lighter blades.

Cyclic response (G) in the BeastX is only how quickly the heli accelerates upto it's full roll/flip rate.

Pot 2 (Cyclic feed forward) is for the very initial servo response to stick input, you would turn this up if you wanted to do old school crack moves!

Hope this helps.

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04-21-2017 01:47 PM
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joshreynolds777

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Willis, Tx

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I'm just trying to get my models to roll quicker. Like they do in the sim. They all roll slowly on the factory settings.
I have. I idea what crack moves are.
So your saying I need to put the roll rate on user defined mode ? Not extreme for this ?
And adjust in the radio ?

04-21-2017 07:17 PM
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EEngineer

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TX

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"Remove EXPO in radio if any and test each setting in field. "

Yes, and there's a way to get the beast "out of the FBL control loop" for bench setup...to prevent the beast FBL from "taking over"...

Had a Blade 450X with the AR7200BX...or was it the AR7000BX...I forget....used to drive me nuts when I was in FBL mode when adjusting something.

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