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04-15-2017 12:33 PM  6 months agoPost 1
CoachE

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I am seriously thinking about using the Bavarian Demon #Axon on my scale bird. Can any one out there with a large scale heli, with a multi rotor head, share thier experience with this unit.

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04-28-2017 01:13 PM  5 months agoPost 2
rcglo1

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help

all i can say is my trex turbine has a 3cx fbl unit, and i cannot speak highly enough about it. just fly,s hand,s off. just so good i have three 3cx fbl units and very very happy can i tell you.most other so-called fbl units are not even close.

http://www.youtube.com/user/rcglo1?feature=mhee#p/a/u/0/tjylNcHuqX8

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09-19-2017 10:29 PM  27 days agoPost 3
garyl

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I put the Axon in my Vario cobra. The hover is solid but I had troubles with elevator bounce when moving the cyclic stick off center. I have since learned from research on other forums that the Axon requires far less head gain than any other gyro out there. The 3D guys are running only 35% head gain and state it flies solid. After I turned my head gain down below 50% the elevator bounce went away, goes against what I learned on other gyros but it worked. The setup instructions state to only set the gains between 35 to 45% which I thought was strange, I know better now . The tail is locked in on the stock settings so no issues there.
I am now working on another issue with the nose slowly pitching up in forward flight.

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09-19-2017 10:38 PM  27 days agoPost 4
CoachE

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Will you please take a pic of the software interface. I am thinking about getting that FBL but want to see the software first.

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09-20-2017 04:10 AM  27 days agoPost 5
Dawiev

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There are a number of vids on YouTube that will give you a good idea how the software looks and feel.

It will also be of even more value if you can understand German ............

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09-20-2017 01:06 PM  27 days agoPost 6
garyl

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Here are the screen shots that I use, this is in the expert section.

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09-20-2017 03:19 PM  26 days agoPost 7
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Evan,

I have Bavarian Demons on all but one of my scale helicopters (7).
I recently updated my 1/4 scale EC-120 electric from a 3SX that was flying well, to an Axon just to see the difference.

Danny M. at Panda Aero told me that the Axon "would make the heli fly better". I pressed him on "what" would be better, and he told me that he could not describe the difference, but "it would be better". Not the feedback I typically look for, but I decided to try the Axon anyway.

It took very few adjustments on the Axon to get this EC-120 to fly nicely.

What are my comments on how the helicopter flies compared to the 3SX; "It flies better with the Axon". Why / what is better you may ask? Hard to say, but it is "better".

The best way I can try to describe the subtle difference is that the 3SX does nothing wrong, but the Axon does everything right.

The Axon also has has the advantage of 3 "banks" of perimeters that can be used for different conditions, or to try out a revised setting. The 3SX and 3X can have two gain settings adjustable from the transmitter, but anything else you would need to use a computer to change.

If you happen to fly with a Jeti radio, there is the extra, and very nice advantage with the Axon that it is fully integrated into the Jeti system, so any / all changes can be made from my transmitter while the heli is setting on the ground. Very cool!

Sandy

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09-20-2017 04:17 PM  26 days agoPost 8
garyl

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Sandy,

What settings did you change and why? what are your settings now?
We can make this a learning thread for the future Axon users.

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09-20-2017 06:50 PM  26 days agoPost 9
CoachE

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Hmmm, I am also told the Axon is compatible with the dmss-XBUS system. If i could get a definative confermation on that. Then it wouldbe a no brainer for me.

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09-20-2017 09:24 PM  26 days agoPost 10
garyl

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Here is the drop down list of recievers.

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09-20-2017 10:44 PM  26 days agoPost 11
CoachE

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Well that answers that..... THANK YOU!!!!

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09-20-2017 11:22 PM  26 days agoPost 12
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Well Evan, I am certainly glad you started this thread and thanks to everyone that has contributed so far. I definitely see an Axon in my immediate future...and probably a Jeti in the not so immediate future

Andrew

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09-20-2017 11:31 PM  26 days agoPost 13
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Gary,

I am back home this weekend, and then I can show what I have changed from the "standard large scale settings".

The only yucky thing with the Axon as it is now (I expect it to change with one of the next updates), is that you actually need to have the Axon connected to the computer to open the software. So, I cannot just open a saved program and see what is different like I could with the 3X or 3SX version.

Sandy

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09-21-2017 07:16 AM  26 days agoPost 14
Dawiev

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......(I expect it to change with one of the next updates)......
Don't hold your breath.

BD posted on HF in July that they are too busy with "larger, commercial" projects to complete the BT module - almost a year after the unit became available. I doubt that this unit is getting any attention.

Governor doesn't work on fuel helis either.

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09-28-2017 01:34 PM  19 days agoPost 15
garyl

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I was looking at what the different head/tail settings were between the head size selections in the dashboard for scale. Does not look like much unless there is more going on in the software that we can't see.

250-500 settings

501-800 settings

>1.8M settings

>2.0M settings

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09-29-2017 03:21 AM  18 days agoPost 16
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Gary,

A bit late, but here are the settings of the Axon on my 1/4 scale Vario EC-120 electric helicopter that is flying very well.

I am using a Jeti DS-16 radio with REX 7 receiver and Savox SC1268MG servos.

Sandy

These may not be 100% relevant to this thread, but it shows the very cool integration that the Axon has with the Jeti transmitter.
Just a few of the screens available to adjust the Axon from the transmitter:

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09-29-2017 11:52 AM  18 days agoPost 17
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Sandy,

Your gains are high compared to mine, I guess your big heavy heli needs that. The decay rate is right where I am ending up at to stop the slow pitch up in FF. I see that fene tail was tough to tame with the P gain and lock-in delay maxed out.

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