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04-17-2017 10:37 PM  67 days agoPost 101
EEngineer

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"And I know you have to calibrate"

Ok, but your numbers were off....

What if the coil's diameter was large enough to have the battery's longitudinal axis fit within the coil?

Then a magnetic field could be applied to the battery on 3 different axes....and also allows for the whole "jig" to be rotated so that all 3 axes of the earth's magnetic field could be tested.

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04-17-2017 10:59 PM  67 days agoPost 102
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I used a car stereo to bump up the amp draw and lowered the cell pro so it would take longer.

But when I got sick last October I quit flying, and quit messing with stuff.

But I'm doing better and this is where I'm at with things.

I'll try to get temps this next time.

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04-17-2017 11:01 PM  67 days agoPost 103
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Well it's a 3 axis.
I was probably mistaken in pointing y at the magnet and reading only that.

To calculate North and field strength it uses all 3. So I'm sure I screwed that up.

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04-17-2017 11:06 PM  67 days agoPost 104
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Are you actually reading anything I'm posting?

I've said the original patent described the various axis' for the field and they concluded that it should be perpendicular, right angle, longitudinal...

Long ways across the field.

I plan on using a small straight wall bucket.

Eventually, I'm broke at the moment.

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04-17-2017 11:11 PM  67 days agoPost 105
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New 4cell battery
No emf boost
2nd charge of day
Final reading

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04-18-2017 12:00 AM  67 days agoPost 106
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No reading for 2nd charge of the day
On the old 4s with EMF boost

Charging 3rd charge of the day

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04-18-2017 12:26 AM  67 days agoPost 107
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Old 4 cell
3rd charge of the day
Final reading
Emf boost

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04-18-2017 12:51 AM  67 days agoPost 108
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I have a 1.5 Tesla magnet sittin right in front of me.

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04-18-2017 12:59 AM  67 days agoPost 109
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I'm just wondering what would happen if I build one of those coils and place my joint inside .... will the EMF cure my ED ??? Maybe I can sell that contraption if it does !!!! LOL !!!

Been there, done that and old enough to know better.....

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04-18-2017 01:02 AM  67 days agoPost 110
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New 4 cell no emf
No reading..
At 17 min I should have gotten a reading.

Maybe there's time for a fourth...

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04-18-2017 01:13 AM  67 days agoPost 111
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"Maybe I can sell that contraption if it does !!!! LOL !!!"

It depends on what direction you want it to point to.....

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04-18-2017 01:15 AM  67 days agoPost 112
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See a doctor...

An electrocockaphlopogist...

They know about magnetocockaphlopogy......

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04-18-2017 01:16 AM  67 days agoPost 113
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will the EMF cure my ED ???
Depending on the frequency, it makes the magnetic poles stand at attention, so maybe...

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04-18-2017 03:28 PM  66 days agoPost 114
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yo heliraptor, eengineer has your best interests at heart.

Interesting that I see your topic after studying crystalline matirx of metals and other such things at the molecular level(how they make neodymium magnets and the like).

Lower resistance should mean higher charging rate. However I finished charging two nanotech lipos at 4 amps (3.4a to tell you what the charger was doing) and they were loaded in 15 minutes. I can easily get four round magnets and box the lipo within and see if the charger amps allows higher c back to the lipos.

It isn't a case of doubting your observations only that they are incomplete in demonstrating without an example of the normal charge ir, the improved ir with m field and perhaps as said the difference in time it took to put back so and so many mah.

Also, post the link to the patent on this.

my guess is you could take two magnets and sandwich the lipo between them provided the polarization is correct.

from your diagrams and photos you have an induction coil parallel with the charger, if your cell app can measure the magnetic field of the coil alone at least wire resistance can be understood with a reading of more winds or less and the resultant strength of field. It's easy enough to assume wire resistance with charts all over the net on household e chord wire of typically multi strand 18guage. I think eengineer was trying to assert if any megnetic field was present or if you experienced a placebo effect.

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04-18-2017 10:54 PM  66 days agoPost 115
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Not going to get to fly today.
My charger doesn't do discharge cycles.

I know...
You're heartbroken
You were on the edge of your seats...

I'll post more when I get more.

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04-19-2017 12:13 AM  66 days agoPost 116
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If you can find an iron pipe or something(check it for attraction to a magnet first), you can "up" the relative permeability by perhaps 100 or more over that of air....and increase the magnetic field strength by that much.

Your battery should fit in a 3" pipe probably.

Anything you can do to increase the coil's current, the number of coil turns, and the relative permeability of the coil's core....

Or all 3.....will increase the field strength.

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04-19-2017 12:30 AM  66 days agoPost 117
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I did consider that.

That's why I was aware that different materials made for a different net magnetic effect. However in my mind, it should be just the coil and the battery.

Call it intuition,
And avoidance of excess heat generated.

The only thing I'm changing when I build the next one is the diameter and over all volume.
I don't want to get too crazy.

Just wrap it around something the size of a coffee can, plastic of course.

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04-19-2017 12:56 AM  66 days agoPost 118
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If you can find an iron pipe or something(check it for attraction to a magnet first), you can "up" the relative permeability by perhaps 100 or more over that of air....and increase the magnetic field strength by that much.
Sure - - - but within the metal of the pipe walls - - - not in the open space inside the pipe.

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04-19-2017 01:11 AM  66 days agoPost 119
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Have a little faith in the fact that though I'm not selling anything

I am taking a risk in sharing with you guys

You think anyone is going to buy batteries from me on this forum, ever again?

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04-19-2017 02:22 AM  66 days agoPost 120
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any remote possibility of posting the patent of the initial invention your project is based on?

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