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PETER ROB

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Those who believed the weather forcast, got it wrong,
2 days of good flying weather, Saturday the promised rain held off untill we were heading home
Sunday started overcast, then the Sun shone for the rest of the day
My new Vario Schweitzer 300 had it's first public outing, I had maidened it a couple of weeks ago
The star for me was an early Lockhead 380, (i believe) first heli I have ever seen with retractable under carriage
The next was a turbined Wessex, the kit comes from Germany
Peter R

04-03-2017 11:14 PM
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ssmith512

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Nice pics and cool helis! Thanks for sharing,

Steve

04-03-2017 11:43 PM
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cobieg

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Very nice machines. Beautiful country. I really liked the Lockheed. Would like to see it flying.

Ron

I didn't crash. I just ran out of airspeed, altitude, and ideas all at the same time!

04-03-2017 11:45 PM
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Mojave

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Great pics Peter! Your 300 looks great!!
Barry

All helis and planes have an expiration date stamped on them...you only find it after you crash!!

04-04-2017 02:06 AM
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PETER ROB

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Schwietzer 300

Watch at YouTube

Watch at YouTube

RON, I will try and post the video of the Lockhead
Peter R

04-04-2017 11:23 AM
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MDSCUSTOMS

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Think you'll find the Lockheed is in fact a Model 186 also known as the XH-51A.
It was also offered for sale as the model 286 for either Civilian or Military use but none were sold.

I have an original Heim version but it does not have the retractable skids (The Kavan ones will fit if I can get hold of them).

Looks like you had a good weekend there though, some very nice Helis and I love the videos of yours flying.

Ps...Is that Peter Christy I can seen kneeling in the 2nd photo of the Lockheed ?

Mark

I'm only here coz I'm not all there !!

04-05-2017 02:39 AM
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PETER ROB

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Model 186 also known as the XH-51A.

John Tanner, ex editor of Model Helicopter World built this one, it is a model 187, say's so on the side
John said it was built for the speed record back in the 1950's?, said it achieved 286 mph, a record that stood for many years, only to be surpassed by one mph, hence the reason for the retract skids
Not sure on model maker, from Germany thats all
Yes that is Pete Christy,(John Tanner standing) now he has retired, he has returned to Devon, back to his roots, close to me, he pops down to our flying site now and again
The 300 was flown by Richard Morris, from the ex MHW mag, we have been show flying mates for a number of years, I try for a new machine each Spring Charmouth, Richard always fly's them, to give me an honest no frills verdict on the build
There are only 3 vario Schweitzer 300's in the UK, all 3 owners were at the event, mine the only helicopter, it fly on rails no stabilisation, unusual, to fly with that wall of flat glazing, needs to be pushed all the time, fitted with the Zenoah G320, (my conversion), it has bags of reserve power
Peter R

04-05-2017 09:18 AM
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MDSCUSTOMS

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_XH-51

I'm only here coz I'm not all there !!

04-07-2017 01:59 PM
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helphelp

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the noise

Will someone please turn off that strimmer I can't hear the helicopter!

04-08-2017 08:07 PM
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PETER ROB

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Lockheed

Ron, Hope I got this right
Peter R

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04-17-2017 06:10 PM
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cobieg

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Very nice Peter. The retracting skids are pretty cool.
Ron

I didn't crash. I just ran out of airspeed, altitude, and ideas all at the same time!

04-17-2017 08:22 PM
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PETER ROB

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Glad you liked it, took me ages to figure how to get it linked through RR
Peter R

04-17-2017 09:41 PM
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MDSCUSTOMS

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Peter,

The 187 markings on the side of your friend's model are not relevant to that model. The Lockheed 187 was actually better known as the AH-56 Cheyenne. A totally different helicopter but it shared the same rigid rotor head design which was being tested at the time.

Also, the speed record for the Lockheed 186 / XH51-A was as a compound Helicopter with an extra jet engine stuck on a side wing giving it a level fight speed of 257 mph. Much like the Airbus X3-A of today using wing mounted propulsion to boost the overall speed. Again a compound helicopter.

In it's true helicopter form the model 186's top speed was only 174 mph. Compare that to the British Lynx only built as a true Helicopter and a top speed of 201 Mph and still the fastest in the world today.

Don't be fooled by stickers on the sides of your friends models, A little research goes a long way. I thought you would have known that being a scale builder.

And if you wonder what I did as a kid, I spent every opportunity at Army Air Corps bases around the Helicopters as much as I could, My Father was an AAC Pilot / Instructor so used to take me with him. I got to climb inside and outside of those machines looking them over. The only base I couldn't go to was the RAE at Farnborough unless the airshow was on. My Father worked on the Army evaluation team for the Lynx Helicopter there 1973 to 1975.

Needless to say, now you know where my passion for Helicopters comes from.

Finally, my latest build nearing completion is... a Lynx AH-7.

Mark

I'm only here coz I'm not all there !!

04-22-2017 08:54 AM
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PETER ROB

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Be in the right

Mark, the only reason I posted the photo's of Charmouth was, that it is the first meet of the year, and thought all might like to see some of the models on show
John Tanner, (ex Model Helicopter World Editor), built that particular model and my only true interest, was the retractable skids, it seems, those raised a few questions, and then put some time into getting the video available to RR
I had no doubt in my mind when John related the history of the full size to me, If he was so wrong maybe you should get in touch with him and put him straight
I do not waste my time trying to prove that all scale models are not true to the original, I just like to keep MY large model fleet in the air and flying saftely
Maybe, when your model is finished, you could attend the Rollston meet at Stonehenge in August, it is not far from anywhere in Wales to this event
Then we can appreciate what a true scale model looks like
Peter R

04-22-2017 09:38 AM
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