RunRyder RC
 4  Topic Subscribe
WATCH
 3 pages [ <<    <     1      2     ( 3 )    >    >> ] 1692 views
Scorpion Power Scorpion Power
HelicopterOff Topics News & Politics › Sec Ed: Devos!
02-16-2017 02:53 PM  9 months agoPost 41
Heli_Splatter

rrElite Veteran

USA

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

And once again...1helimech proves it.
koppter said...And nowhere have I said I am in favor of it or not in favor of it. I have simply asked for reasoned responses from those who say "it sucks".
I get a kick out of parents announcing "my child is taking AP math, science or whatever". Folks this is not a contest. OK maybe it is for the best jobs, best schools, salary. So on we go testing the heck out of the kids leaving less time to actually teach them anything.

A lot of what I do is, in fact, teaching. I seem to be constantly explaining how to do something or how something works. Of course, this is post high-school, but I also teach degree'd persons. Fortunately, I am dealing with small groups so that I can vary my delivery to the audience. My TBI people are just as eager to learn as the engineers. Feedback and talk is key.

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
02-16-2017 03:38 PM  9 months agoPost 42
sjgusmc21

rrApprentice

San Antonio, Texas

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

If you want your child to read, you have to take the time to listen to them read. I took a young gal from terrible reading skills to the top of her class by having her read a newspaper article to me every night and then discussing it with her.

It did not matter the subject, she could choose, but listening to her improve over time gave me such satisfaction. She is thankful to this day. Math, reading or any subject takes involved parents. You can go as far and fast as they can grasp a subject. Reading is fundamental to everything.

Don't blame the teacher, the school or the system. You are responsible for your child.

Teach a child creationism... I have a big problem with that. School is no place for religion.

I have no problem with the above statement. MOF...I agree completely.

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
02-16-2017 03:51 PM  9 months agoPost 43
koppter

rrApprentice

Virginia

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

One of the policies with which I have sharp disagreements is the early imprint on our students that they need to go to college. we begin that mindset in middle school and continue into high school. into high school, as was said above, it becomes more competitive, as it's the students in the AP courses that are positioned for acceptance into the more prestigious universities, and the "lower class" gets ready for state schools (of which I am a product). and then are the rest - the message that they are not college bound firmly tattooed along with the invisible message that they failed. they become the underclass. many will likely follow the path of their parents - often teetering between poverty and low middle class. I know plenty of people who do not have college degrees but who by middle class metrics are successful. they took the time to learn a skill. We all know it's true - that not all kids are college bound - but we need to provide a vocational direction for those that aren't, and provide them skills to be successful.

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
02-16-2017 05:26 PM  9 months agoPost 44
Heli_Splatter

rrElite Veteran

USA

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Wow Koppter... no disagreement there. We need talented trades-people. All people are not meant for the CEO office. We would do well to give all the shop classes we can and not shame anyone for taking the classes that will in all likelihood be a career for them. Even the Engineers and rocket scientists benefit from early hands on learning.

We need welders, carpenters, plumbers, electricians. Most of all, we need to stop sending manufacturing jobs overseas.

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
02-16-2017 05:50 PM  9 months agoPost 45
sjgusmc21

rrApprentice

San Antonio, Texas

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

My wife does not work for this very reason. If my children do not know how to read, write, do math, learn science, etc then it is OUR FAULT AS PARENTS. Not the teachers. Teachers teach, parents TEACH AND REINFORCE WHAT IS TAUGHT AT SCHOOL.

It is not the teachers responsibility (nor should it ever be) to teach right from wrong, morality and civil responsibilities. That is the duty of the Parents.

Every single night we spend time with our daughters doing homework, discussing what was taught at school, what they did, etc.

MOF....a few months ago, I found out that my daughters homeroom teacher (first year of teaching) told her it was 'ok to fail, it will just make you try harder next time'. Well, I believe the neighbors observed a small, tactical nuke cloud emitting from our kitchen area.

Holy crap, I about nuked. It is NEVER ok to fail. Ever. We are talking 3rd graders here...omg. Needless to say, her and I had a very 'enlightened' email segment and soon after phone conversation. Then, a few weeks later, my daughter started asking me some very mature questions. I asked where she heard these things from....Oh, Ms. ##### showed us her commencement speech at her graduation'. BOOM!

So, IN THE END, it is up to parents to teach, monitor, and guide their children. Yes, yes, this is and should be 'common sense'. But you would be surprised.

God is in everything our daughters do. God always will be. Its ok to teach creation at school....but my kids will know what the Bible teaches as well. And also, my daughter says the pledge of allegiance every single day at school. I am very, very proud of her.

God Bless Texas

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
02-17-2017 12:10 AM  9 months agoPost 46
dilberteinstein

rrNovice

texas - USA

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

koppter

One of the policies with which I have sharp disagreements is the early imprint on our students that they need to go to college. we begin that mindset in middle school and continue into high school. into high school, as was said above, it becomes more competitive, as it's the students in the AP courses that are positioned for acceptance into the more prestigious universities, and the "lower class" gets ready for state schools (of which I am a product). and then are the rest - the message that they are not college bound firmly tattooed along with the invisible message that they failed. they become the underclass. many will likely follow the path of their parents - often teetering between poverty and low middle class. I know plenty of people who do not have college degrees but who by middle class metrics are successful. they took the time to learn a skill. We all know it's true - that not all kids are college bound - but we need to provide a vocational direction for those that aren't, and provide them skills to be successful.
Oh snap...dang you koppter!

I have been telling people I know a guy online that doesn't have a single worthwhile thought in his head.

I find myself agreeing with your above statement 100%. Now I have to tell people I was wrong.

90% of life is "showing up"

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
WATCH
 3 pages [ <<    <     1      2     ( 3 )    >    >> ] 1692 views
Scorpion Power Scorpion Power
HelicopterOff Topics News & Politics › Sec Ed: Devos!
 Print TOPIC  Make Suggestion 

 4  Topic Subscribe

Saturday, November 25 - 11:35 am - Copyright © 2000-2017 RunRyder   EMAILEnable Cookies

Login Here
 New Subscriptions 
 Buddies Online