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dilberteinstein

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spaceman spiff

Thanks, that chart was uplifting.

I was under the false impression things were much worse.

I did a little looking and saw a protest on Downing Street condemning Trump. It was strange about their interviewing protesters in the fact they had N. American accents.

It appears the US is exporting riots and protests that go back to one man, Soros.

But they may be onto him:

Watch at YouTube

Maybe Trump is an inspiration to the rest of the free world.

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02-02-2017 05:22 AM
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dilberteinstein

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On a side note, protesters have rioted and are burning a Berkley building. The left is very destructive.

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02-02-2017 05:24 AM
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RMSLINKERS

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Like something changed?. Been that way for 40 years or longer. Don't get their way they will riot ( called protesting when they do it)burning and destroying others property. Just getting more common these days.

If it isn't beating the air up it isn't flying

02-02-2017 02:01 PM
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abyzzfan

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Sorry england guy, I do not believe that. Once you Brits allowed Sharia No Go Zones in London, you guys lost your country.
Yes, we do have some no go areas in London and around the country, that I cannot deny. But if you look at it objectively they are still a small portion of the population. They are just humans with some strange form of indoctrination that we as a country have been festered on us. Sharia law will NEVER be mainstream in this country simply because the majority will never allow it. You cannot begin to contemplate the sheer volume of numbers who will resist it - and resist it vehemently.
It would take an act of god, and a major act of your parliament to overrule your muzzies that you guys allowed to do whatever they want.
No, the game is they will make trouble from time to time until it reaches breaking point and we tell them to f@£%@ off. They know this - they're not that stupid, nobody really is when we're talking about this game. The problem is that the general population is ignorant/don't care/want to get on with their lives, and their general feeling about these people is mainly one of annoyance, triviality, avoidance etc. . . If they even dare to step across the mark they are going to see such brutal resistance and savagery that would pale in comparison to what their retarded faith states they have justification for. Never under estimate the mob,
When you guys had a debate in your parliament on if you guys will allow Trump into your, now, muzzie country, I lost all faith in you guys. I Don't believe you prissy Brits have the stones to fix your muzzie problem.
I think your PM May has the stones, but your left leaning politicians will overrule her. Then turn out the lights, the party will be over.
No that's just the media. If we were to be objective about all this the chances of being the victim of a terrorist incident is very small. That, however, doesn't justify their occurrence even for one incident.

Since they are here in fair numbers the only practical thing we can do is to move our society to a position where we enforce our Western values more stringently and not tolerant any of their values that conflicts with our own. This will send a clear message to them that they must accept what our society offers and how it's run or LEAVE. It's going to take a major catastrophic/apocalyptical/terrifying terrorist incident to change the tide of opinion of the masses to the point where they will be forcefully removed.

The majority of the Left are f@@£ing idiots. Always have been - they just don't know it. If they think for one minute that they have the power to pursue their OWN agenda and disregard the will of the people they got another thing coming.

Just a few days ago Parliament voted for Brexit by the majority of 4 to 1. That piece of sh*t Gina Miller was stirring trouble and got the court ruling thinking she had the MPs on her side to reverse Brexit, but she didn't understand the MPs. Initially most of parliament were AGAINST Brexit, but when that vote came it was the other way around. Why? Because these MPs had the decency to honour the will of the people, they knew they would be committing political suicide if they voted against. They understood the meaning of democracy.

02-05-2017 09:43 AM
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abyzzfan

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Right on man! You are 100% correct. Once the scuslums get foothold, as they almost have in the US, the party really is over, and we lose our country. Its really close at the moment.
If I was Trump, I would definitely declare the whole country under "marshal law" , and do whatever is necessary to fix the mess we are in. Any troublesome people would go into one of the FEMA camps with razer wire. That is where most of the democrats need to be. No more insurrections! none!
As I see it, we are very close to "World War III", and it will be over islam.
no it won't.

What you are asking for Trump to do is too extreme, even he would see sense not to do it.

The problem is a multitude of complexities and nuances of certain themes are at play.

The first is that the middle east which is a clusterf@£k of the worst kind imaginable. This would be a big topic in itself to argue through. Bottom line is the West's interference in that area has done us no favours at all. You have the various factions and sects all vying for power with a long history of resentment and distrust of each other going back centuries, with a lot of other groups being caught in the cross fire adding more to the mess. Bottom line is, when viewed from this position, we can say - as Robert Fisk espouses - that we never really let those countries just be themselves, we've constantly interfered with them. It's like someone telling you how to run your house or personal life and you don't get much of a say because they forcefully, temerariously believe in their ways and you follow or else you lose their support. What you create is long term resentment and bad blood, and as you know for example at a personal level, even if what someone says may be true/correct/justified the way the person says it or their attitude towards you in that regard can seriously piss you off. Like a person going through life, some countries just want to be left by themselves to learn by themselves, having outside interference would just create hostilities and anger that could take decades - if not centuries - to resolve.

The islamic faith is an interesting factor in this mix. On the one hand I was seriously angry with it, but after thinking about it I can see how it somehow appeals to the psychological make up of the population. People are stupid in that regard. It grew out of a warlord who was successful militarily and that gave him some kind of credibility, Over the years it changed, like people/societies do, and evolved into theological disputes and grievances between the two main branches. The shias and the sunnis do not trust each other and their intense hatred goes back centuries, right back to the time of their prophet's death. Add to the mix various other sects and interpretations that came about and we have a mess. They all seem to be accusing each other of not being true muslims, the standard line, and it can all get pretty complicated and nasty as well. As I see it, islam is like the retarded child in the classroom keeping the whole class behind, who is asking for special treatment so that EVERYONE gets held back and be forced to learn at islam's pace. Point is in the West we've been through this sh*t before with the inquisitions, civil wars, blasphemy laws etc . . and reformations. We don't care to go through all that again, but the problem with islam is that it claims that it's final and that's the problem. As outsiders we can't reform it - they'll resent it if we try, and we have no credibility to do so. They got to do it themselves, but after 1400 years that has not happened, and it doesn't look likely that it will be happening.

02-05-2017 10:11 AM
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That's because The Truth is Jesus Christ.
Why? The Resurrection.

Islam is from the mind of man.

No mere man can perform a resurrection,
much less tell of it's coming for over
1500 years!

In God we trust. (The Real One.)
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I love gravity, it always keeps my feet planted when I fly!

02-05-2017 01:55 PM
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Ease up you guys, these eeyjits signing petitions and protesting in the street do no represent the majority in the UK. They are out of the same mold as YOUR anti Trump protestors. They are all fired up with self righteous indignation mainly over an audio clip dug up from years ago. You cannot reason with them, they are right, you are wrong, they support democracy and if you don't agree with their point of view then they are entitled to beat you to a pulp because you are ignorant and they are educated. I have become amazed at how things both social and political are mirrored on both sides of the pond and from my point of view someone is yanking our chains and plenty are dancing. Me, I'm prepared to give the Donald a free run to see how he goes, but the guy is fighting with all the old hands at the top of your political system who have their own agenda. See how they try to chop him down at every opportunity, drip poison from the media and always have a good cover story for their actions. He probably has good cause to distrust the security services too and certainly some of the news outlets. I believe he has good intentions but their are plenty who don't and with the speed with which we can pass ideas and information amongst ourselves it is very easy to whip up public opinion especially amongst those who are already primed with a personal opinion about things they only have a vague understanding of. What has happened, where has it come from that it is ok for the minority to keep protesting until they get the result that THEY want and blow the democratic process. I am more frightened of that psycho female sjw shouting about her right to remove your democratically elected president by any means because she personally didn't like the fact that he has the final say on who pushes the button. You have your problems and we have the same over here but dont't tar us all with the same brush because of pompous,self righteous, oversensitive virtue signallers in our parliament.

02-23-2017 02:43 AM
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dilberteinstein

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Thanks Evolusia and abyzzfan for your insight.

I have a tendency to get caught up with the screaming nuts and it's not fair for me to point fingers at others when our situation is so bad.

I feel we are close to the tipping point in this country. We barely dodged a bullet by rejecting Hillary this go-a-round.

Our leftists are working overtime trying bring this country down.

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02-23-2017 03:00 AM
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abyzzfan:

Well said Sir. You and your countrymen (native) have always been our closest ally. However, be careful. I am constantly amazed at the strength of the left, the uneducated, the liberals and those that will not assimilate.

I have not given up hope for Europe or England. But all of you are at a tipping point.

I don't pay attention to the media....no matter what country or language, I know most of it is liberal and therefore the twisted truth, at best.

Be safe.

02-23-2017 11:02 AM
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Evolusia

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sjgusmc21, Fear not for us for we will come out on top in the end, there are plenty of us who have finally seen the light. Our biggest problem is that these clever buggers have systematically turned out a couple of generations of brainwashed snowflakes who think that they can live in some fairy-tale world of goodness and light where no one can offend them in anyway whatsoever and no one ever says no! sit down and shut up. This is why they sign ridiculous petitions and hold pathetic protests where only a handful have anything coherent to say.

02-23-2017 05:45 PM
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Our biggest problem is that these clever buggers have systematically turned out a couple of generations of brainwashed snowflakes who think that they can live in some fairy-tale world of goodness and light where no one can offend them in anyway whatsoever and no one ever says no! sit down and shut up.
bunch of self entitled, egotistical, moronic, deluded fools the whole f@£@king lot of them. Them and the SJWs and the f2£@king leftist feminists too.

There are some genuine feminists worth hearing but they are starting to wise up to the whole movement and see it as poison now. Just read Phyllis Chesler.

I don't mind open debates but it just seems that the standard way for some of these idiots to win is to shut people up using the PC card. We do that and we will never get the truth. And for some reason a lot of people prefer this than hurt people's "feelings".

Don't blame Trump for banning the media. They should get their act together or just shut up.

02-26-2017 10:25 PM
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What has happened, where has it come from that it is ok for the minority to keep protesting until they get the result that THEY want and blow the democratic process.
you know, what part of democracy do these idiots NOT understand? We had a vote, you lost, now suck it up or shove off! Go live someplace/where/country else that is more accommodating of your wants and needs.

What I'm really angry with is why most of hollywood and the major celebrities hate Trump so much. It just confuses the hell out of me and I've not had time to look into this.

One of our problems as a tolerant society is that perhaps we've become a bit too tolerant. Or maybe we were always, as A A Gill would put it, insouciant. If we were all to be honest with ourselves we rather not deal or think about all this sh$t and just get on with our own personal lives and our own problems. But it seems that Western society is under threat now, and this might be a time to defend it or else we will lose what we've taken for granted for a long time.

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