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02-22-2017 08:27 PM  8 months agoPost 61
EEngineer

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"we are still alive here in cali and not going anywhere."

I heard youze guyz were going to secede from the union....

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02-22-2017 08:32 PM  8 months agoPost 62
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"Unlike olden days, now with smartphones nearly everyone can participate in instantaneous gratification at any time, any where."

I've read reports on how engineering companies such as Boeing, etc. are complaining about the quality of engineering job applicants.

While they know the textbook engineering they studied hard to learn, they have no concept of how to actually build something with their own hands.

Because they never have before.

Bummer

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02-22-2017 08:57 PM  8 months agoPost 63
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I talked to a GA Tech professor complaining about the quality of the students. I assume they all graduated and then apply to Boeing. You have to back way up to find the problem.

Scroll down to the chart:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progr...dent_Assessment

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02-25-2017 03:29 AM  8 months agoPost 64
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Fastrc1 you're absolutely right it flew right over my head as the A.M.A. is the main magazine that I received & I don't mind reading about other types of planes/ drones. It's just that I'll admit that I'm biased towards rc helicopters because from a building & hovering/ basic flight that's where I've had my best success. Thanks

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02-25-2017 12:30 PM  8 months agoPost 65
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Fasterc1... I am not listening to your diatribe. I have helped many learn to fly RC helicopters. I don't think that a single one has stuck with it. "We are not doing enough" is a boat load of undigested pig poo!

The reason more people are not coming into this hobby is because it is tough, it takes a lot of time, and it cost a lot to pay for the aircraft, electronics, and crashes.

Publish as many articles as you want. Bully everyone for not hosting enough events as you are doing. It is not going to change anything. There are easier and cheaper ways to experience vertical flight. They are called drones

To fly RC helicopters you have to really want it. You have to practice a lot (not 1 week) on the sim BEFORE you go bug the local heli guy you think will divulge the secrets by osmosis. That would be the same heli guy that has seen your ilk hundreds of times only to see you disappear.

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02-25-2017 01:50 PM  8 months agoPost 66
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All you have to do is look at the district articles in the AMA magazine and look at the pics, all you see are white haired old timers ( witch I am one of unfortunately ). These millinals are a different breed that makes us old timers scratch our heads over. Flame on...

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02-25-2017 02:20 PM  8 months agoPost 67
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There are 350,000,000 people of some sort in the USA.

The AMA membership is 200,000. That's 0.057 % of the population.

Nobody will miss us when we are dead and gone.

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02-25-2017 02:40 PM  8 months agoPost 68
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Maybe we should charge them for lessons.... if it is free, you get what you pay for.

Don't have time to practice on the sim, yet you want me to throw away my time helping you???

Get past that argument. BTW... I am continuing my efforts to share the hobby.

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02-25-2017 06:57 PM  8 months agoPost 69
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"All you have to do is look at the district articles in the AMA magazine and look at the pics, all you see are white haired old timers ( witch I am one of unfortunately )."

Sure, but I also see many youngsters in the pics too.

Everyone can postulate why we think the hobby as we "knew it" is "dying".....but it isn't.....and it won't.

Without getting political, the economy has sucked for the last decade. This hobby is expensive and is a luxury for most.

The youngsters now have to been concerned with getting a decent job, I would think. Relative priorities, I guess.

I have seen a few downturns in the hobby over the decades.

It just happens.

FWIW

PS, for the white haired old timers, there's always "Grecian Formula 44" and Viagra......LOL

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02-25-2017 09:16 PM  8 months agoPost 70
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well said EEngineer

+1

Insha Allah made in america

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02-25-2017 09:37 PM  8 months agoPost 71
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Let us all know about the Las Vegas FF when ya get a chance...

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02-25-2017 10:38 PM  8 months agoPost 72
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I don't believe sim time is a prerequisite for receiving help, attitude is. It's all about attitude and willingness, driven by passion. It was about five years before I had a sim and I rarely used it. I'm sure most of us learned the hard way which I don't regret. That's what makes this an exciting and fulfilling hobby. I do acknowledge how hard it is as I have spent 99% of my 20 years in this hobby alone.

We need to remember that lots of people jump from personal fad to personal fad, golf, rc cars, rc helicopters, tennis, mountain biking. They never realise the effort required until they are well and truly financially committed. This is why we still see unflown or never run Hirobo Shuttles in the classifieds and EBay.

Speaking of fads, don't start me on the 3d wannabe mentality.

Futaba T18SZ, JR Propo XG14, Hirobo fanatic!

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02-26-2017 12:47 AM  8 months agoPost 73
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EE
I just got a new AMA mag today and looked at all 10 districts and saw exactly 2 young people and no, none , zero teenagers. Face it guys the hobby in in a big downturn. I also agree that the economy has been crap since 2008.

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02-26-2017 07:46 AM  8 months agoPost 74
EEngineer

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rpat, where was the 2nd youngster? Missed him.

lol

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02-26-2017 05:29 PM  8 months agoPost 75
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Paul,
To me, sim time makes all the difference. If they come to the field and cannot even hover... it takes a long time to get over that stage. Now if they don't know their orientations, it takes a while to get over that..

Why bang blades? Times have changed. For the cost of one or two crashes, you can have a fine simulator.

I know that a lot of the older guys disagree..I know this works, and guys show up at the field prepared to fly. Using the sim shows dedication to learning the hobby. You get almost an hour of flying for each hour invested. At the field... you might get two or three 6min flights per hour and have risk.

It might be an interesting experiment... charge $5/hr of instruction with the understanding that they get it all back when they solo or nothing if they drop out without finishing. Our time is worth something and this would give them incentive.

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02-26-2017 05:32 PM  8 months agoPost 76
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youngster in this hobby is defined as anyone under the age of 30....

but yeah...the average FunFlyer in my area is around 50 years of age.

But now where are we... still a relatively "old" buncha guys (and like 10 gals in the USA). the drones peeled away the younger ones and some of the veterans...

Maybe we are just a weird bunch... destined to die off in numbers as we age out of the hobby and fewer and fewer replace our ranks.

I honestly think that the Planks and Car guys have remained relatively stable... Us heli guys seem to be going bye bye.... I base this on what hobby stores (online too) have on their shelves...

seeing someone in my area under the age of 30 and flying a hobby grade Heli is like spotting a unicorn...and they dont usually stay long.

welcome to age of button mashing cyber-reality hobbies boys.

come to think of it, I believe that the drone craze has leveled off too... I wouldnt doubt that a decline there will begin soon.

BTW has anybody noticed that the interest in RC helis is directly related to the content of the "hot girls" thread?...

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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02-26-2017 08:12 PM  8 months agoPost 77
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Rn3
I like your comparison about the girls thread. Says a lot about the RR site.

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05-25-2017 05:25 PM  5 months agoPost 78
warrior29

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Paint it pink, Bedazzle it, teach teenage girls how to do selfies with it the boys will follow. Just saying.....

Credit card can't be max'ed I have more up grades to buy!

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05-25-2017 06:10 PM  5 months agoPost 79
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Pinkos?

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05-25-2017 10:15 PM  5 months agoPost 80
icanfly

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young people are into hormones. that means sports, and the opposite sex. During school age it might be the books. 20's it's about job, living situation and a life partner, 30's about buying a home for the young offspring the life partner and you brought into the world and about working to pay for their education, 40's about a well paying job to keep the mortgage, car, and furniture loans paid, and mid life it's about catching up on responsibilities to all of that and making sure the kids go the right way in life. THEN after all that is taken care of and you are 50 +/- you can relax and go back to playing with your toys, uhh, rc helis.

Mostly like that.

when I first got on the internet I felt like it was sucking my soul out from me by it's addictive nature, makes you think about the cell phone problem because it can be taken everywhere and anyone can have it. During most of the time on the net I DID nothing physically productive, how about you?.

helis are not going away jt's taking a little rest from fad level things of the Airwolf kind. 200.000 AMA members, not bad, bet the faa scared a few not registered, and how many mall copter and or rogue school yard and open lot and farmland flight rc heli owners are there compared to AMA members? Million or two?

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