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01-20-2017 03:06 PM  10 months agoPost 1
RM3

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The're not selling fireworks and have a day off...

Id be popping fireworks, having a beer, BarBQing and burning B.O. paraphernalia in a bonfire celebration.

especially after today considering we just got informed our insurance will no longer support my wifes OBGYN (halfway though her pregnancy no less)... AND being told that our deducible for emergency visits all by itself just went up to $1,300 the other deductibles are higher than either of our monthly paychecks.

FK U Obama... this ones for you

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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01-20-2017 03:42 PM  10 months agoPost 2
rcmiket

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" I you like your plan you can keep your plan"
" If you like your Doctor you can keep your Doctor"
" It will save you $2500.00 a year"
" We have to pass the bill so we can see what's in it"

All Pure BULL$HIT.

Mike

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01-20-2017 05:28 PM  10 months agoPost 3
spaceman spiff

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Id be popping fireworks, having a beer, BarBQing...
I have been saving fireworks for today. I will shoot off a couple for you.

Good riddance to the bummer, best of luck to us all.

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01-21-2017 12:07 AM  10 months agoPost 4
Flying Brian

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Again, I'm for replacing OBAMA CARE. But our guys better do it right, or its over in 4 years...

"I just don't Listen" "

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01-21-2017 02:15 AM  10 months agoPost 5
slickporsche

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Too Bad

Do any of you really want government run healthcare?

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01-21-2017 02:32 AM  10 months agoPost 6
chas1025

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It truly bothers me how rude and crude people on here have been concerning President Obama and things such as the Affordable Care Act. I have a fair amount of experience in the medical community and I want to share a few things with you that so despise this healthcare plan.

Before the ACA

1. Insurance companies could deny adults coverage that were expecting because they did not want the financial responsibility of caring for the child.

2. Insurance companies could deny coverage for children who were sick or dying and they many times did.

3. Women who had a single bad PAP Smear were considered to have a Pre-Existing condition and could not get insurance.

4. Anyone with a pre existing condition and a lapse in coverage could not get insurance.

If the Republican party truly tries to maintain the pre existing condition clause and the allowing people to stay on insurance until 26, then you will still need an individual mandate in order to have a large enough pool of healthy people to cover the sick people. Also, taking the support out of the ACA for rural hospitals and Medicare also cripples the plan.

The ACA was passed in 2010. Republicans attempted at least 50 times to defund or cripple the ACA which would lead to a repeal. At no time did they ever submit a plan to replace it. Even now, as the repeal is well under way, there is still no replacement plan available. The Republican party has had 7 years and not once have they ever submitted a replacement plan. The supposed plan now is to repeal and delay the effect for 3 years so they can have that time to create a replacement. This will mean that it will have taken 10 years from the time of the original Democratic ACA for a Republican ACA equivalent to be created.

The one thing I know is that someone close to me is alive because of the ACA.

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01-21-2017 02:50 AM  10 months agoPost 7
Life_Nerd

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Cool. Were you fortunate enough to get inexpensive or free healthcare at the expense of others. You are welcome then.

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01-21-2017 03:28 AM  10 months agoPost 8
chas1025

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Thanks for helping me remember why I avoid participation in this particular forum.

I wish you the best and hope your America becomes great again. My America has always been great.

By the way, the person you so quickly judged got insurance because the ACA no longer allowed insurance companies to deny coverage based upon pre existing conditions. It had nothing to do with money.

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01-21-2017 03:50 AM  10 months agoPost 9
conbones

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Move to Canada if you want centralized​government dolling out centralized medicine.

Go on get!!

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01-21-2017 03:54 AM  10 months agoPost 10
Life_Nerd

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Like I said, at the expense of others. Sorry if it sounds mean. Things were fine before ACA.
It truly bothers me how rude and crude people on here have been concerning President Obama...
It truly bothers me how people can defend this guy and think ACA was this huge win. Not for everyone.

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01-21-2017 01:20 PM  10 months agoPost 11
rcmiket

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It truly bothers me how rude and crude people on here have been concerning President Obama
It truly bothers me how this guy totally ignored the will of the people to further his agenda. The ACA isn't affordable unless your freeloading off the taxpayers.
Glad he's gone.

Mike

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01-21-2017 03:08 PM  10 months agoPost 12
Heli_Splatter

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44 million people in this country live without any medical insurance of any kind. Everyone in this country is an accident or illness away from poverty. That then becomes a pre-existing condition and you no longer qualify for medical insurance.

You can work your entire life as a productive tax paying citizen and have it all taken from you because of a car accident or cancer.

So what happens when an uninsured person gets sick or injured and cannot pay? All of the insured pay for them. Yes, you pay for the uninsured.

It is not fair. The 44 million should be forced to pay more than a $95 yearly penalty for not having insurance. Everyone should have to pay into the insurance pool.

Remember, you are mere seconds away from medical poverty. Don't kid yourself. That is not left or right-wing, that is a fact.

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01-21-2017 03:58 PM  10 months agoPost 13
RM3

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exactly...

not since ACA did I ever have to account for medical bills like this...EVER.

we would do our budget, the typical stuff, take home pay minus house payment, light bill, water, food, gasoline, cable, phone, food... and we actually had money left over for savings.

now we have to add medical bills on top of all that as a monthly expense that in many cases rivals that of our food expense if not more per month.

what utter BULL$HIT.

since when does a blood test to check for common concerns for a pregnant woman cost $8,000?

since when does a visit for my son (looked at by a Nurse Prac) cost $800... didnt take blood, no tests, just Q and A sent home with a presc for nausea meds.

since when does an ambulance ride to a hospital, 7 miles away cost $900?

lastime I had an accident, I was machining a part on my lathe, I cut my finger pretty bad... rather thatn go to the doctor, i bit down, cleaned out the wound, applied pressure, bandage, and a 7 weeks later it was healed up.... my brother (a PA) asked me months later about the scar on my finger, told him what happened, he said he was astounded my how well it healed up.... his jaw dropped when I told him i took care of it myself, his response "well you likely saved yourself about $3,000".

the ACA, OBAMACARE, made healthcare prices skyrocket and bankrupt the working class.... yeah the poor have no incentive to get off their a$$ and work to pay for their own healthcare. It doesnt take much, if they all paid into the system, even just a tiny bit, it would work... but they have no problem buying a $500 phone or $1,000 TV or illegal drugs do they.

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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01-21-2017 04:17 PM  10 months agoPost 14
Heli_Splatter

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There is a component of rising health care that has nothing to do with ACA... it is the gouging of Americans by Insurance Companies, Pharmaceutical Companies and Hospital corporations.

It is not just ACA. You have worms that charge $800 dollars for a pill that sold last year for $10. You have executives that charge $700 for epipens.

There is greed and gouging. It has to stop. We need more than individuals to fight for this.

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01-21-2017 04:19 PM  10 months agoPost 15
conbones

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A right to healthcare does not exist in this country. Dont punish me i didnt invent liberalism or socialism. I will not be held responsible for the actions of lazy libtards. They made there bed they can sleep in it, just like me. Its called personal responsibility.
Actions or lack there of have consequences.

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01-21-2017 05:40 PM  10 months agoPost 16
RM3

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There is a component of rising health care that has nothing to do with ACA... it is the gouging of Americans by Insurance Companies, Pharmaceutical Companies and Hospital corporations
true... but why? because there is NO competition and NO quality control. those have been removed by our government.

If you could shop around the entire USA for healthcare, get what worked for you and they had to meet a minimum quality standard.... prices would drop. Service, Support and quality would again become part of the equation. and corps that sought to gouge and enrich themselves would struggle to compete.

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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01-21-2017 08:41 PM  10 months agoPost 17
utahbob

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sure hope our new guy can git 'er done

My last ride in an ambulance was about 7 mi.; back in '78..it cost 75.00 and I thought that was outrageous then!

I do a great decending funnel!

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01-21-2017 09:50 PM  10 months agoPost 18
Heli_Splatter

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I don't get it... what is Medicare/Medicaid? It is government subsidized health care. My dad was flown to Loveland Emergency Care for the Rockies twice, once by helicopter (jealous) and once by plane. Another trip was by ambulance (300miles). No cost or very reasonable cost for all these services.

ACA is healthcare for everyone else. I lost my health insurance when United Health pulled out of MD, I was not happy. But ACA did seem to take up the slack.

As an individual, I just don't think that you have the purchasing power to drive cost down. If you are a 100person corporation, maybe you have some negotiating room. With millions aboard, it should be possible to make markets. Unfortunately, many of the young choose to ignore purchasing health care leaving older and chronic conditions on these plans.

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01-21-2017 09:58 PM  10 months agoPost 19
rcmiket

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Unfortunately, many of the young choose to ignore purchasing health care leaving older and chronic conditions on these plans.
They choose to pay the fines which are much cheaper than the AHC premiums,which the idiots that came up with the AHC didn't count on.

Mike

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01-22-2017 12:36 AM  10 months agoPost 20
pctomlin

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There were just a couple of things that were good about odumbo care like pre-existing conditions, however the couple of good things are far outweighed by the exhorbinant amount of bad. Those couple of good things need to be preserved while scrapping the rest for a truly affordable health care plan. The unfortunate thing is Progressives love names that do not reflect the truth of what it really is, what a bunch of suckers we are. If you remember right, the really, really good stuff is set to kick in now that odumbo is out of office. Should be a real laugh when all our die hard liberal union buddies see the bill attached to the Cadillac health care plans that is coming unless we get rid of this atrocity perpetrated on the people of America.

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