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02-14-2017 10:24 PM  4 months agoPost 41
chopper37

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Looking Good

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02-15-2017 04:17 PM  4 months agoPost 42
Peter WalesElite Veteran - Orlando Fl - My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

It's coming on.

White base coat on. A couple of pin holes have shown up in the front doghouse so a touch of filler and a repaint with my airbrush will happen this afternoon when the base coat has dried. Then it will be the first of the color coats. This is the fun part!

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02-16-2017 02:38 PM  4 months agoPost 43
Peter WalesElite Veteran - Orlando Fl - My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

The first coat of color is on. The fluorescent lights give it a kind of greenish cast

This is a bit more representative of the color

I will let that dry for a few hours and then mask off for the red

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02-16-2017 03:45 PM  4 months agoPost 44
goodhunting

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Is the final product be like the one in the picture on the table?
I like this idea of a red and yellow helicopter....
Clearly visible against the background...

Klem

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02-16-2017 04:09 PM  4 months agoPost 45
Peter Wales

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Yes. I have built a couple of these before and they are really easy to see and orientate on. As I have all the docs and files for the vinyl, as well as the paint from 2007, I thought I would just make another one. They look very pretty with all t he lettering on them.

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02-16-2017 04:15 PM  4 months agoPost 46
goodhunting

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best of luck. Will keep watching this fabulous build as it progresses

Klem

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02-16-2017 08:47 PM  4 months agoPost 47
Peter WalesElite Veteran - Orlando Fl - My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Thanks for your good wishes, the paint God was listening

Turned out pretty good. just a couple of small touch ups and then leave it to set completely ready for clear coat tomorrow

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02-16-2017 09:08 PM  4 months agoPost 48
ssmith512

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Super sweet looking!

Hopefully I am not imposing, but would like to ask a painting question if you dont mind, because seeing what you have done with multiple colors has me thinking. I notice that you painted the whole heli yellow first, even though only a small portion of the yellow is visible after the red paint. When I begin painting my big Airwolf, I was only planning on letting the white portion run a little wild near what would be the mask line, mask and then paint the dark color top portion. Would I be better off painting the whole heli white first? If so, why? (trying to learn).

Thanks in advance!!

Steve

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02-16-2017 10:03 PM  4 months agoPost 49
Peter Wales

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Hi Steve,

Glad you like it.

The reason for painting all if the heli yellow first is that if you just spray where you think you need the color, you may miss and then what do you do?

The other thing is the over spray. With your model you could spray the bottom white and half way up the sides, but then you have to blend the white over spray into the fuse by sanding it. Then you may find the texture of the sanded paint differs from the white you want to keep. So now you put extra on the bottom so you can sand that down to level it.

I find its easier to spend the money, buy enough paint and paint the while model gradually reducing the area you want to paint as they get smaller. When I did my Seasprite I first painted it white. Then I masked off the numbers and roundels and over masked the whole fuse and painted the yellow band at the tail. Then I painted it all grey. Then I reverse masked the roundels by masking the heli, peeling off the masking layer by layer and painting the red and the blue individually. Its like a game of chess, you have to figure out your next move and prepare for it accordingly.

My advice is to paint the whole heli in the bottom color, which I believe is white, then mask off the bottom and paint the top the dark gray.

But, I'm no painting expert, pose this question on the forum and see what the experts have to say.

Peter Wales
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02-17-2017 03:55 PM  4 months agoPost 50
Peter WalesElite Veteran - Orlando Fl - My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

The clear went on without too many problems. The only run was easily fixed with some fade out spray, an invaluable tool to a painting bodger like me

Now I can put on some clean clothes, and play with my computer and vinyl cutter all weekend, after a good mornings flying tomorrow!

Peter Wales
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02-17-2017 05:52 PM  4 months agoPost 51
ssmith512

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Thanks for the info Mr. Whales!!

I think I will call Joe. Rumor has it that he has painted a couple helis in the past and might know a thing or two about painting LOL!

Steve

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02-17-2017 07:07 PM  4 months agoPost 52
Peter Wales

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Joe is my go to man for painting questions. he was a professional painter and has the answers.

Best of luck calling him, I have been calling him on and off since before Christmas and he doesn't answer or return my calls. Maybe I asked too many painting questions

Peter Wales
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02-18-2017 02:05 PM  4 months agoPost 53
Thumper217

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Looks real nice from the pictures Peter and look forward to seeing it in person in Panama City!

Good information on your painting techniques as well. I have only ever really painted one fuselage and it was black and it didn't turn out real well so painting is not one of my favorite things. I need to practice, practice, practice as it seems to me that experience is one of the keys to a good paint job! You mentioned fade out spray and that it's an invaluable tool. What is it?

Andrew

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02-18-2017 02:13 PM  4 months agoPost 54
JuanRodriguez

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You mentioned fade out spray and that it's an invaluable tool. What is it?
Google is your friend....

http://www.autoparts2020.com/rsdev/...T_HDR_ID=107021

Been there, done that and old enough to know better.....

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02-19-2017 12:31 AM  4 months agoPost 55
doorman

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Looking really nice Peter!! Sure it will be a show stopper with the graphics on it...You are cranking it out..

Steve, don't let Peter fool you... he knows exactly what he is doing with that paint...

I have done several over the years and would do exactly as he did with the yellow or whatever color you might be using.. keeping the paint building evenly is what you are looking for.. and always darker over lighter..

Stan

AMA 2918-Team JR, Spin Blades, East Coast Scale Helicopter,Castle Creations

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02-19-2017 03:37 AM  4 months agoPost 56
Peter Wales

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Thats exactly the stuff I used Juan. I has a serious run on the top cover so I sprayed it with fade out and left it on its side and there is no sign of a run. Good stuff!

Peter Wales
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02-19-2017 05:11 PM  4 months agoPost 57
Mojave

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Hi Peter, your paint scheme looks great! I looked up the fade out spray, very clever creation. Seems quite a bit easier than wet sanding, followed by polishing to get the run out. I'm assuming it works with epoxy paints?
Barry

All helis and planes have an expiration date stamped on them...you only find it after you crash!!

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02-20-2017 02:33 AM  4 months agoPost 58
Peter WalesElite Veteran - Orlando Fl - My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Hi Barry,

It works with 2K clear coat if that's what you mean

Well this weekend wasn't as much fun as I expected. During the print of the crest, my Yellow ribbon ran out. Its a thermal wax printer cutter. I had a new one so I put that in and it broke immediately. The cartridge had been reloaded by a 3rd party who used inferior material. The problem is no one makes these cartridges any more, so unless I can find one on the internet somewhere, that's the end of my printer cutter.

So I got everything printed and cut and I stuck it all on the model and started to do the final assembly. The front piece of the doghouse just would not fit properly. I found the sides were fouling the servo wheel, so I changed the wheel for a single arm and dispensed with the push pull arrangement. Then the sides fouled on the screws holding the top mechanics support to the fuselage, so I changed them for pan head screws. Then the sides fouled on the servos, so I cut a big trench in the corner of the turbine inlet. Then the last straw, the top part fouled on the motor. I gave up for today. Still, it looks pretty.

Peter Wales
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02-20-2017 03:08 AM  4 months agoPost 59
Peter Wales

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Burrowing around on the internet found a few places that sold the printer cartridges so I bought some. The good news is that Roland actually only have Black and yellow left so I started there.

Peter Wales
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02-20-2017 11:38 AM  4 months agoPost 60
chopper37

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Beautiful looking heli again amazing work, there was a few YouTube videos about the servo wheels and the motor clearance issues glad you got it worked out, cant wait to see in flying.

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