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01-07-2017 05:49 AM  5 months agoPost 21
ICUR1-2

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almost all ESC program the same way. full throttle to enter set-up then move to low position to calibrate.

even though the default is 17% your telling ESC this is your lowest in TX so it will work but IMO it should be 0.

the Align ESC and castle esc program the same way for throttle stick calibration

spending time, paying attention

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01-07-2017 09:04 AM  5 months agoPost 22
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01-07-2017 09:59 AM  5 months agoPost 23
iyoy

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Possible faulty motor

In a desperate effort to isolate the problem, I will try using the Talon 90 to arm the motor of my TRex 500L. If the ESC can get the motor to turn then the motor or wiring of the 550 must be the faulty part correct?

iyoy

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01-07-2017 12:10 PM  5 months agoPost 24
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It doesn't sound like you have a faulty motor since the ESC beeps sound pretty strong. The beeping you hear comes from the motor and if there is something wrong with the motor, connections or otherwise, the motor will sound faint or not beep at all.

There is one more thing to try. I noticed when you are calibrating the transmitter to the ESC is that your end-points are set to 30 which is near mid-stick. Try using a higher value, I usually start with 50. Also go to your servo monitor and confirm that the throttle channel is moving and can move to its full range when the end points are at 100.

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01-07-2017 01:10 PM  5 months agoPost 25
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talon 90

I would like to also ask a question since we have the brightest heli minds at work here. If I have 10 helicopters all equipted with talon 90 esc"s and I only use one futabe 8fg to control them and they all have mini vbars is it required to do the the endpoint throttle calibration for each model or just once and good to go?
I believe I have only done this once and have had no issues with any of the helicopters , not trying to hijack this thread by any means.

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01-07-2017 04:40 PM  5 months agoPost 26
iyoy

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50 Endpoint and Servo Monitor

Hi John,

Thanks for the advice. I will try this when I get home on Tuesday. I will post the results then.

iyoy

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01-07-2017 05:51 PM  5 months agoPost 27
wc_wickedclown

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I would like to also ask a question since we have the brightest heli minds at work here. If I have 10 helicopters all equipted with talon 90 esc"s and I only use one futabe 8fg to control them and they all have mini vbars is it required to do the the endpoint throttle calibration for each model or just once and good to go?
you would still have to calibrate each one.

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01-07-2017 09:12 PM  5 months agoPost 28
jtv62161

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I thought so but each model most likely would have been within 2-3% of each other

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01-08-2017 04:05 AM  5 months agoPost 29
iyoy

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New motor and ESC

Thank you everbody for all the constructive comments. I am grateful for concerned friends like you. At the moment, I am away from home on duty but will be home tomorrow afternoon. In the meantime, I have become impatient and have decided to order a new motor and ESC online. I should have it before next weekend. While waiting for that delivery, I shall continue trying out all your suggestions. Please bear with me. The other thing is, I'm also expecting delivery of the TREX 700X which I've ordered last week. It looks like my hands and work table will be full the next couple of weeks.

iyoy

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01-08-2017 04:09 AM  5 months agoPost 30
iyoy

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Reset to Align Factory Settings

Hi,

I just wanted to bump up a previously unanswered question- is it possible to reset the ESC to the original Align factory settings? If yes, how please? I fear I might have inadvertently reconfigured it by my incorrect arming procedure. Thanks!

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01-08-2017 08:35 PM  5 months agoPost 31
Civerad

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The manual states which settings are default but you're better off getting a Castle Link and setting it up manually through your PC.

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01-09-2017 05:06 AM  5 months agoPost 32
dkshema

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Make certain your Throttle Trim on your TX is set to full LOW trim. This is important and it appears to be something you haven't done.

Set TX throttle channel to REVERSE.

Set throttle endpoints to 100%.

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01-09-2017 05:32 AM  5 months agoPost 33
iyoy

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T-14SG Transmitter Settings

These are my settings. Please scrutinize and tell me what is wrong

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01-09-2017 06:11 AM  5 months agoPost 34
dkshema

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Your Talon 90 came preprogrammed from Align to work in a helicopter, it was set to fixed throttle endpoint mode.

Since you have a Futaba system the Throttle channel needs to be set to REVerse, which it appears you have done.

After that, all that you should have to do is set your throttle endpoints to 100 percent. Initially, your throttle curve should be a straight line, starting at 0% for low throttle, 50% for mid throttle, and 100% for full throttle. You don't currently have that in your TX programming.

Set your throttle stick to something close to about 1/4 throttle (somewhere between low and mid throttle should be fine). Set your throttle TRIM tab all the way down. Turn on your TX, then plug in your heli battery. The ESC should make some noise, then count out six beeps to indicate your flight pack has six cells. Once that is complete, move the throttle stick to full low, again making certain your throttle trim is also full low.

You should hear the arming sound and the ESC should run your motor once you begin advancing the throttle stick.

You may also need to perform the ESC to throttle calibration sequence found on the Castle website so the ESC knows where full on and full off happen to be.
Y
If you don't have the Castle Phoenix link programmer and the software to run it, now is the time to get it. You can set up all features of the ESC using a PC and you can tell us what all the settings are.

Also - plug a servo into the RX channel 3 that is controlling the throttle (in place of the plug going to the ESC). See if it moves with the throttle stick.

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01-09-2017 06:29 AM  5 months agoPost 35
iyoy

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Dave

Hi Dave,

Thanks for your patience. Just to remove any doubt that I have, I watched this video just so that I could reset the Talon 90 to factory settings.

Watch at YouTube

I will reset my normal throttle curve to a straight line now and set the trim to minimum and give the arming another try. I am ordering the Castle link now.

iyoy

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01-09-2017 07:00 AM  5 months agoPost 36
iyoy

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Armin attempt as suggested by Dave

I tried a servo connected to receiver channel 3 and external battery connected directly to receiver. It works fine. I set the normal throttle curve to a straight line: 0, 25, 50, 75, 100. Throttle trim is minimum. Turned on Tx, set throttle to 1/4 and connected battery. 6 beeps then low throttle stick. Motor did not run when throttle moved up stick. Video to follow. What else am I doing wrong?

Watch at YouTube

iyoy

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01-09-2017 01:19 PM  5 months agoPost 37
dkshema

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Trims are labeled T1 through T4 on the transmitter.

I am not familiar with the 14SG, so I need to ask if the throttle and elevator use cross trims. That is, does the trim tab under the right stick work with the throttle on the left stick, while the trim under the left stick work with the elevator on the right stick?

The reason I keep going to the trim thing is that the ESC needs to see low throttle to arm. With throttle trim other than full low, you may not be giving the ESC full low.

If you're not moving the digital trim to full low, or you're using the wrong trim, you will never arm.

If all else fails, adjust the low throttle end point (while at low throttle) beyond 100%, see if you can arm.

In your videos I don't see you touching the trim, let alone see you holding it until the trim is full low.

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01-09-2017 03:33 PM  5 months agoPost 38
Heli_Splatter

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Try creating a brand new model, or wipe out/reset all the settings.

Change the throttle to reverse. Now try the esc to see if it will start. If it does, you know you have something wrong. If not, it is an equipment failure.

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01-10-2017 12:14 AM  5 months agoPost 39
iyoy

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Dave

The 14 SG is normal, not cross trim. The left side T3 position is assigned to throttle . To verify this, I disconnected the ESC plug from the receiver throttle channel 3 and connected a spare servo with a servo arm in that receiver channel in order to monitor throttle stick and trim movement. I also compared it to the swashplate reaction to elevator stick and trim T2 movement. Here is the video:

Watch at YouTube

I noticed the travel volume of T3 (throttle)is much smaller as compared with T2 (elevator). Where do I look?. Later I will try creating a new model and see if there is a change. Thank you for your patience guys. I hope to resolve this with your help.

iyoy

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01-10-2017 12:22 AM  5 months agoPost 40
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you can disable T3

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