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Machinehead01

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Okay, question, so a friend of mine got out of the hobby, still had 2 cases of Byron's master blend and gave them to me. Here is the question, we live in Michigan and the fuel has been stored out in his unheated garage for 2 years IE hot/cold, hot/cold. All the fuel is still sealed, do you think it's still usable?

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12-22-2016 07:05 PM
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Doug

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Try it if it runs OK then its ok, I wouldnt reject it based on age.

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12-22-2016 07:36 PM
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banshee rider

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Absolutely I have fuel that I just cracked open this fall that is
probably 4/5 years old

Stored in the same manner unheated garage here in northern IL.

ageing is manditory maturity is optional

12-22-2016 08:09 PM
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Andy from Sandy

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Most fuels come with a stopper that has to be removed after taking the cap off. So long as it has them to seal against moisture and the fuel didn't get frost bite then I can't see why there would be anything wrong with it.

Even better if it was in the suppliers thick cardboard box.

12-22-2016 09:42 PM
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Machinehead01

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It was definitely frostbit

It was about as exposed to the cold as it could possibly get. It is in the box but it still saw the cold temps. I guess I will wait and see if it runs all right. Even if it doesn't run all that well, but runs, it was still free. How does the temps affect the fuel anyways? Moisture content or mixture stability?

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12-23-2016 01:59 AM
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ICUR1-2

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Condensation could form inside the bottle. same for direct sunlight.

tuning is certainly more affected in cold weather.

start with a new plug and try it out, it will either flame out or go

spending time, paying attention

12-23-2016 04:38 AM
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banshee rider

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ICUR1-2
Condensation could form inside the bottle. same for direct sunlight.
tuning is certainly more affected in cold weather.
start with a new plug and try it out, it will either flame out or go
Condensation cannot form in the bottle unless the bottle is not sealed shut

The only moisture that will be present in the bottles will be from the day it was bottled at the factory

The bottles can be hot/cold cycled a thousand times and the condensation in the bottle will not increase

ageing is manditory maturity is optional

12-23-2016 01:41 PM
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Tyler

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I still use my wildcat fuel that is at least 6 years old. Stored in Northern IL in an outdoor shed, away from the house for safety. Always runs great.

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12-23-2016 01:44 PM
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Machinehead01

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Thanks guys

I appreciate the replies and the input. Sounds like my friend gave me a nice chunk of change, in fuel. I will have to thank him appropriately.

Tom

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12-23-2016 02:02 PM
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honda411

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I always stored my fuel in the house in the closet where it's dark.

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12-23-2016 03:31 PM
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Ace Dude

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USA

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Just shake it well up as the contents can separate after sitting for an extended period of time.

I've successfully used fuel I've had stored for years, but it was kept in a heated basement and off the floor.

  

12-23-2016 04:25 PM
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Tyler

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24 cases of fuel stored in a closet inside the house would look rather suspect if there was a house fire. I feared a loophole for the insurance company, whether the helicopter fuel was a contributing factor to the house fire or not.

Incidentally, I did suffer a house fire since purchasing the fuel, which was caused by a lipo battery. An insurance claim was carefully avoided, but I am glad I didn't have to deal with fuel stored in the home if an insurance adjuster/inspector was called to our house.

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12-23-2016 04:49 PM
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Wesley-G

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Elmont NY

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Fuel will last 3 years plus in a unopened bottle just remember not to store directly on concrete floor

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12-24-2016 02:44 PM
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Machinehead01

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Lower Michigan

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Okay I'll bite...

Why not directly on concrete? The plastic of the bottle makes an almost perfect barrier, the fuel isn't petroleum based so the plastic won't be adversely affected, so why not?

Tom

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12-26-2016 09:16 AM
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birdflipper

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Should be fine .
The only time i had fuel vo bad was after the plastic plug was removed and the humidity over the summer ruined it..that was my guess.
That fuel should be fine ..run a tank or 4 in a hover and you will have your answer.
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12-26-2016 01:36 PM
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Wesley-G

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Elmont NY

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nitro methane attracts moisture concrete holds moisture over time the nitro will draw the moisture though the box and the bottle.

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Tyler

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I find it hard to believe that water will migrate through the plastic bottle.

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ant_mb

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I have also had a few gallons stored on a concrete floor for 4+ years and tested a bottle this year and runs great. Not sure why the whole concrete thing thing is out there.

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12-27-2016 06:35 AM
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Grimracer

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Eau Claire WI

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Byron fuels did a bunch of testing on bottles and the percentage of moisture propagation and methanol evaporation.. it will be fine.. fly away!

Grim

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12-27-2016 12:51 PM
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Ace Dude

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Keeping fuel off a concrete floor was recommended by Jerry, the former owner of Wildcat Fuels. His recommendation and explanation is in his post at the link below. His post also mentions the permeability of the plastic bottles used.

https://rc.runryder.com/helicopter/p1641895/

I kept my fuel on a pallet so it was not sitting directly on a concrete floor.

  

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