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jschenck

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Got the two Bat Safe's today - anyone else get theirs? Mine are still in the shipping box, I'll try them out this weekend and get some pictures posted.

12-21-2016 03:37 AM
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tommytt1

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Curious what you think.

I made a mistake once, but I was wrong?

12-21-2016 04:27 AM
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old nitroman

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got mine today too

E5s and E7se, Roban bell 222 800 superscale,450 bell 4 bladed head,gobby 380,180cfx

12-21-2016 06:50 AM
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fastflyer20

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Good news.

I am interested in how the wires are routed, if you could post some pics it would be helpful.

Tom
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12-21-2016 06:41 PM
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Peter Wales

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You can see how it is wired if you download the manual from their web site.

http://www.bat-safe.com/web/

You do right to be concerned, my 2 safes have been carefully put away so I wont get annoyed about how impractical they are. Maybe you will be more tolerant than me.

I look forward to others opinions on the practicality of charging 2 5Ah Lipos from a dual charger with 6" balance leads

Peter Wales
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12-21-2016 06:52 PM
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old nitroman

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Pretty neat wires slip threw the top, inside you spread the rubber ears opens the slot for wires. they when crazy with the bats on it, very cool. I will try mine this weekend. Funny I had forgotten about them. neat surprise.

E5s and E7se, Roban bell 222 800 superscale,450 bell 4 bladed head,gobby 380,180cfx

12-22-2016 01:47 PM
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doorman

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Not Yet!!

A friend in Little Rock got his last Friday.. mine have not shown up yet
Soon I hope..
I went over his and he ordered extented charge cords and balance leads from Progressive RC..
I am looking forward to getting mine and putting them into service!!!

Stan

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12-22-2016 02:06 PM
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n8rloves2fly

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Pics

Any pictures? I could use somthing like it.

12-22-2016 02:26 PM
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KJH

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Any pictures?
Pictures of it are in the manual:

http://www.bat-safe.com/web/download/setup-instructions

-Kevin

12-22-2016 03:59 PM
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HeliOCD

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Funny humans.
The things they do..

Its all earth!

12-23-2016 01:00 AM
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jschenck

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La Vista, NE.

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Short writeup finally:

1. Well constructed, looks like they will contain any lipo failure

2. Getting the charge leads in through the wire management plug takes a bit of finesse. I didn't find it too hard once I employed a flat blade but it would have been better with a plastic "spooge" type tool to prevent any metal damage around the aluminum case where the wire pass through plug is inserted then pulled through. Next time I will use one which I have laying around for automotive dash board work.

3. Wire management is an issue
-- you'll need to use longer leads from your charger into the batsafe fire box. You can see the shorter multi plug I have for my i206 isn't long enough
-- Managing balance leads will be tough to do. I didn't try to force a balance lead through the wire port but clearly need to in order to charge with the batsafe shut.
-- Larger chargers such as my iCharger 308 Duo will be a bit of a handful
-- 5300 6S packs fit easily, I'm confident I could put bigger packs in
-- I doubt large stick style packs would fit (i.e. 12S packs setup on a tray for 700/800 size heli's)

Here are some pictures:

12-25-2016 05:17 AM
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thtoyman

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so what did you pay for it? and was the shipping?

12-25-2016 02:20 PM
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jschenck

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It was $83 kickstart pledge for the two units, shipped. $58 for the two batsafe units and $25 shipping. I wanted to fund this project to encourage this type of product development. Some of the stories we've read on these forums where folks have had their house and/or workshop gutted by a lithium based fire are scary.

I'm about 50% there to buying a bigger safe for my shooting hardware and using my existing 10 gun safe for storing battery packs. Of course that may require me drilling a vent hole in the safe. Or maybe just a thick steel cabinet and put a vent line to the outside.

12-25-2016 05:46 PM
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classic

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pretty sure one of these will work just as well to store batteries in, and its cheaper.
simple small safe.
http://www.samsclub.com/sams/waterp...l17=1o6&veh=sem

Which is worse, ignorance or apathy? I don't know and I don't care!

12-27-2016 08:51 PM
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jschenck

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you'd want to be careful with that. If you locked it you'll potentially create a bomb if a pack ignites (no way to vent). Also this Bat Safe takes out most of the really bad soot and related large particles through those vent holes on the top if a pack does fire off.

12-27-2016 09:37 PM
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Jerry K

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Let me ask a question here since I ignored the original post. I understand the reasoning behind the product so I do not need an explanation there. I can see the value in transportation and storage of batteries in the product.

What I don't see is the value in charging in it. With modern chargers we can charge up to 5C (I charge at 3C) batteries can be charged at the field out in the open in about 15 min.. We have 110vac at our field but some don't, but if you are going to fly much you will need to charge at the field. Charging hi powered batteries 1 charge at home will not make that much difference will it. Smaller batteries can be charged from the car battery if you do not have 'shore power'

I have 2 batteries for each size heli that I fly. I begin charging when I arrive and by the time I am set up the battery is done. I have a policy of never charging at home for safety reasons.

12-28-2016 02:47 AM
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fastflyer20

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One example - In good weather I fly three flights before work in 15-20 minutes then 3-4 on lunch in 30 minutes. Within a few minutes, the heli is in the air and as fast as I can change packs, it is back in the air. Charging on site is not realistic, coming with batteries charged is the key. Plus charging at work, this would be perfect since I can't be there every minute.

A casual outing with the genny at the local club or fun fly is a different story, charging on site works great.

Tom
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12-28-2016 04:08 AM
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classic

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I don't lock it, I just close the lid, its heavy, but if enough pressure built up it can excape

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12-28-2016 02:33 PM
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doorman

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Alternates

Sure there are a lot of good ways to store your batteries...
To me though, thus is a purpose built product for modelers by a modeller...
It draws attention from everyone that sees it whether new or an old timer.. if used properly, it can prevent problems..,
I also agree with today's chargers, it is "almost" a no brainer, but there is always that chance that something can go wrong...
That's why I support/ed this project from day one that I read about it...
Still waiting on mine , but looking forward to puttung them into use..
Stan

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12-28-2016 02:54 PM
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artimus

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Batt Safe now available at Hobby King

https://hobbyking.com/en_us/lithium...&utm_source=EDM

Fly Hard......Team Viagra

12-28-2016 03:39 PM
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