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12-06-2016 12:45 PM  6 months agoPost 1
tommytt1

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Worth reading.
Want to Bring Back Jobs, Mr. President-Elect? Call Elon Musk - The New York Times
https://apple.news/A-cK3nmkxRjmeL72twhlbCw

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12-06-2016 04:30 PM  6 months agoPost 2
dilberteinstein

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Wow, talk about a misleading article.

Tesla is the kingpin of corporate welfare. They have blown through almost $5 billion dollars of "free government money" so far.

With Trump in office, he won't be getting the massive infusion of "free government money". Look for Tesla to go out of business shortly.
Tesla Is Hemorrhaging Money Despite Billions In Gov’t Subsidies

Liberal entrepreneur Elon Musk’s business ventures have benefited from nearly $5 billion in government subsidies in the past few years, but apparently that’s not enough taxpayer support to stop his electric car business from losing $4,000 on every vehicle it sells.

Tesla Motors “burned $359 million in cash last quarter in a bull market for luxury vehicles,” according to Reuters, causing the company to “cut its production targets for this year and next.” Musk may even be forced to sell more stock to help plug the gap in the company’s finances.

Reuters reported that “Tesla plans to build between 50,000 and 55,000 cars this year,” most of which are built-to-order. The company’s latest filings showed it “delivered 11,532 cars in the second period and said it had an operating loss of about $47 million, for an operating loss per car of about $4,000.”

http://dailycaller.com/2015/08/10/t...govt-subsidies/

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12-06-2016 04:35 PM  6 months agoPost 3
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I have a very early reserve on a Model 3. Hmmm... Might want to rethink that and get my $1000 back.

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12-06-2016 04:54 PM  6 months agoPost 4
dilberteinstein

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I have a very early reserve on a Model 3. Hmmm... Might want to rethink that and get my $1000 back.
Please don't make any life or financial decisions based on what I post online.

It appears to be a fine product and hopefully they can turn things around.

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12-06-2016 05:26 PM  6 months agoPost 5
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Viva la #45!!

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12-06-2016 06:15 PM  6 months agoPost 6
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Tesla....
I'll stick to my Small Block chevy.... At least I know I can get parts for it ANYWHERE. And ive had it for 20 years.

Good luck getting any hybrid or electric to last even a third that long before you need to replace the pack, which will cost 1/2 of what the car does after you factor in the recycling fee, labor and who knows what other BS.

As for jobs... I dont know how you plan to go into a tariff war with the east and mexico.... yeah you can make it here, but its gonna cost more

especially with all the BS regulation and 30% of a workers earnings going to deductions on their paychecks for all manor of crap of which most the time we cant get a figure on what its being spent on (but its for our own good).

you just about have to redo everything (or undo everything) the government has done to screw everything up.... and thats comes at a severe cost to someone that may not like it... likely people with alot of money to loose and will kill to keep the cash flowing.

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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12-06-2016 07:49 PM  6 months agoPost 7
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You might want to Fact Check The Daily Caller.......

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12-06-2016 08:06 PM  6 months agoPost 8
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You might want to fact check applenews and New York Times...Who actually knows what is truth anymore?

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12-06-2016 08:15 PM  6 months agoPost 9
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Did you fact check the NY Times ? I have. They are spot on .

I fact check almost every news story I have any interest in. You have to.

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12-06-2016 08:16 PM  6 months agoPost 10
dilberteinstein

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You might want to Fact Check The Daily Caller.......
Seems the LA Times agrees:
Elon Musk's growing empire is fueled by $4.9 billion in government subsidies

Los Angeles entrepreneur Elon Musk has built a multibillion-dollar fortune running companies that make electric cars, sell solar panels and launch rockets into space.

And he's built those companies with the help of billions in government subsidies.

Tesla Motors Inc., SolarCity Corp. and Space Exploration Technologies Corp., known as SpaceX, together have benefited from an estimated $4.9 billion in government support, according to data compiled by The Times.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-...0531-story.html

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12-06-2016 08:51 PM  6 months agoPost 11
dilberteinstein

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Did you fact check the NY Times ? I have. They are spot on .

I fact check almost every news story I have any interest in. You have to
Might want to be careful about the New York Times. They have an established history of supporting bad people going as far back as Hitler.

Check out snopes damning report on the NY Times:

http://www.snopes.com/1922-new-york-times-hitler/

The NY Times was 100% in support of Hillary even after it was revealed she conspired with the DNC to "rig" the Democratic Convention against Bernie.

The integrity is not there in MSM and hasn't been for a long, long time.

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12-06-2016 10:12 PM  6 months agoPost 12
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I'm going to replace the NY times with the Daily Caller.

I think the point of the article is that the very same old guard are being put in charge of job creation. Jamey Dimon ? Wall Street crime boss what are we going to put some more tarp money in his private account? And he's just one of the status quo insiders game. NO CHANGES AT ALL......

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12-07-2016 12:03 AM  6 months agoPost 13
dilberteinstein

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I'm going to replace the NY times with the Daily Caller.

I think the point of the article is that the very same old guard are being put in charge of job creation. Jamey Dimon ? Wall Street crime boss what are we going to put some more tarp money in his private account? And he's just one of the status quo insiders game. NO CHANGES AT ALL......
I hear you man. There will be a new normal...just like the old but different.

There is the whole congress and the whole of DC that will never change.

Trump has accomplished the one thing I wanted...he stopped Hillary from taking The White House.

She had the momentum of total corruption behind her which included the complicit MSM.

The troubles Trump creates will be at ground zero and he will be fought at every step of the way...by the left, the right, and the MSM. Hillary already had the left and the MSM in her pocket.

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12-07-2016 02:38 AM  6 months agoPost 14
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Just what we need..

More "clean" electric cars for Hollywood snobs to drive around in while they look down their deviated septum noses at hard working folks that barely afford gas burners. Maybe Mr. T will appoint somebody with a level head to oversee the money wasted on fluff projects!

I do a great decending funnel!

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12-07-2016 06:01 AM  6 months agoPost 15
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Trump has accomplished the one thing I wanted...he stopped Hillary from taking The White House.
for sure she (and Bill) now know what the majority truly think about her/him

Jim
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12-07-2016 11:39 AM  6 months agoPost 16
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Beware.. this is not the last of Bill and Hillary. They will return in some fashion.

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12-07-2016 01:33 PM  6 months agoPost 17
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NY Times is news for the uninformed sheep mentality.

Got to have my cup of heli in the morning.

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12-07-2016 02:31 PM  6 months agoPost 18
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2 slow when you going to DC to investigate that Pizza Place ?

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12-07-2016 02:42 PM  6 months agoPost 19
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Dilbert, the last elections biggest issue was getting rid of Clinton ? I hate her too but she's gone now and your still talking about it ?
You need to look forward.......

2slow, hold your breath until the New President brings the coal industry back. ITS NEVER COMING BACK

The president elect promised he wasn't one of the Boys Club, yet is surrounding himself with the very people he said he despised.
Now that the election is over and the one you wanted is in, why do you stop paying attention to what is going on?

Talk about ****ing sheep.......

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12-07-2016 05:17 PM  6 months agoPost 20
dilberteinstein

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tommytt1

Dilbert, the last elections biggest issue was getting rid of Clinton ? I hate her too but she's gone now and your still talking about it ?
You need to look forward.......
I'm just basking in the sun, my good man!

Until Trump takes office, I'm allowing myself to wallow in victorious glory.

Once Trump takes office, it's icing on the cake.

Here's my plans after January 20:

It's Obama's fault. It's Obama's fault. It's Obama's fault. It's Obama's fault. It's Obama's fault. It's Obama's fault. It's Obama's fault. It's Obama's fault. It's Obama's fault. It's Obama's fault. It's Obama's fault. It's Obama's fault. It's Obama's fault. It's Obama's fault. It's Obama's fault. It's Obama's fault.

See, I got this.

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