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10-22-2016 12:44 PM  11 months agoPost 21
icanfly

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heli dude here through and through. Multis can wind up introducing a lot of newcomers to the world of rc and instill stick co-ordination before taking on difficult to learn cp helis. The learning curve is what gets them every time, also becoming forced to either learn to repair all by themselves or pay some hobby store too much money to keep a cp heli in the air for extended periods of time. A comparable sized multi might run 1/3rd of what a cp heli costs to come in.

Don't worry, multi owners will get bored in a year or so and look for new challenges, come to rc helis and get a dose of crack, err, the awesomeness of rc helis.

You know, you have no idea how many toy mall copters and Airhogs sold not so long ago, the numbers are probably several hundred times if not thousands of times greater than sales of cp helis, 'cept nobody repairs the entry level toy grade stuff. At least the quads are much more crash tolerant.

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10-22-2016 11:37 PM  11 months agoPost 22
airboss

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same thing here, all the Heli hobby stores have 0 inventory and don't plan on ever getting any. the creation of the FBL did take the mechanics out of the heli. it used to be fun to dial in the flybar heads and then with a couple minor changes(paddles and weight) you could change the handling completely. Nitro rules but Lipos are powerfull.

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10-23-2016 01:42 AM  11 months agoPost 23
gologo

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There is a member here whos tagline is "once upon a time, there were nitro,
flybars and frequency pins"......really like that line and don't miss any of those really at all.

That said though, my first eleven years in this consisted of all three, and
never thought a thing about it, just enjoyed the HECK out of the hobby the
way it was. Now helis may be easier to build/setup/fly (and the Tx's job is
waaay less than back then as far as programming), but they still crash just
as fast and can be dumb'thumbed/loss of orientation/etc, and need to be
flown all the time just as they have always been. The skills for each and
every maneuver still needs to be there. Maybe for the sentimental part, I
might miss some of the mechanical complexity/tinkering/adjusting of the
older stuff..........but not enough to go back

BTW, Airboss, I'm with ya! I really don't see an end in sight.....

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10-24-2016 02:10 AM  11 months agoPost 24
airboss

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Our club even approved a heli funfly with camping and we havnt heard a word from them.

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10-24-2016 06:11 PM  11 months agoPost 25
Doug

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I started flying Helies in the mid 70's with a Dubro shark and then a Heli-baby. no gyros no nothing. Then on to the a Kavan JR for a couple of years still no gyro. Then on the a Heliboy and Revolution 60 (rigid head) still no gyros. but then I got a Raptor V1 and to progress to inverted, I got a 501 gyro. I continued on adding a Concept SRII (several) ,I converted one of them to a 90 all are now in "deep sleep". I got a ZMR-250 early this year and have had a great time learning to dodge obsticals and fly through the trees. all in "manual" mode, Just as hard to fly as a 60 sise heli but a realy heavy crash cost about $1.00 And my entire fleet fits in a tool box.

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10-24-2016 07:47 PM  11 months agoPost 26
heliraptor10

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It's a zip zip society and people are being convinced that there is no time to do things right yourself.
You go to work and have a job so you can pay someone else to do it. I have actually heard someone say that in regards to building a Heli versus bind and fly.

He literally said, "my time is too valuable to spend days building."

Some people don't have the patience.

The build, and repairs are part of the fun for me. Especially when you're working with quality equipment, the heft of parts, when they fit together smooth with no play, bearings turning like butter...

I'll be right back...I need to go touch my Heli.

Goblin! where have you been all my life?
RC helis, the original fidget spinners

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10-24-2016 09:34 PM  11 months agoPost 27
PaulBowen

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I see myself as a helicopter enthusiast but not an enthusiast of objects that fly like a helicopter. I fly full size helicopters and enjoy building and flying model helicopters in my spare time. I will always fly glow powered models and flybar now that I have reminded myself why I started this hobby in the first place.

In my experience the 3d flyers are the most likely to move on to the next big thing, many having come over from RC cars. They seem to have very little actual knowledge or interest in helicopters and appear to be in a continuos pissing contest with their flying buddies. People have very short interest spans these days. Good luck to them.

I love this hobby and technology is a great help but at the end of the day I don't want my hobby being seen as or becoming redundant to new technologies. Its a hobby after all. A helicopter hobby, not a random flying object hobby.

Futaba T18SZ, JR Propo XG14, Hirobo fanatic!

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10-25-2016 12:21 AM  11 months agoPost 28
airboss

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good words from Paul, thanks

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10-25-2016 05:40 PM  11 months agoPost 29
w8qz

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Grand Rapids, MI - USA

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I will always fly glow powered models and flybar
The flybar part is becoming more difficult - seems like the flybarred head parts are being discontinued by many manufacturers. For a casual flyer like me, flybars worked just fine. I'm being forced to flybarless due to parts availability

"The helicopter is much easier to design than the aeroplane, but is worthless when done."

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10-25-2016 09:32 PM  11 months agoPost 30
PaulBowen

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Great point w8qz

This is another reason I love Hirobo. They have always had a great level of support (parts availability) for their models, past and present. I really hope this continues. The USA now has support for Hirobo again and then there is also RC Japan.

It seems unfortunate that most manufacturers seem to be driven by the latest F3C and 3D competition rules and requirements when most of us never compete. I feel It's a little absurd OS don't have any engines between the 55 and 105. I understand the OS 105 was introduced for the newer F3C rules allowing larger engines and the constant 3d requirement for more power. That's all good and well but an OS 70 would be great for many of us who are looking for a quiet economical glow 700. My Hirobo D3v2 running 1650rpm still burns 700ml of fuel in 10-12 minutes, $$$. This size heli would once have been a 60 and probably perfectly suited to many people. This is where my Ergo 30 shines. I can fly around all day for very little cost. I have just bought a Hirobo Freya OPII and changer the gear ratio to a hopefully quieter and more economical ratio. I can't wait to fly it.

A final note. I love engines and I love mechanical systems that perform complex tasks well and I just love helicopters.

What a fantastic hobby. I feel we are all very lucky to be able to afford the time and money required to be a part of it.

Futaba T18SZ, JR Propo XG14, Hirobo fanatic!

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10-26-2016 02:40 AM  11 months agoPost 31
banshee rider

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It seems unfortunate that most manufacturers seem to be driven by the latest F3C and 3D competition rules and requirements
Most of the manufactures if not all have always been driven by F3C
Its only been the last several years that 3D has risen to the top

3D is where the money is now more so than F3C

So if a company wants to stay in business
They have to build 3D machines and to a lesser extent some F3C
models

ageing is manditory maturity is optional

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10-27-2016 01:55 PM  10 months agoPost 32
old nitroman

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Naples florida

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Sounds like some of you need to fly scale, scale ship your really never done building, and what some of the guys build is crazy, I fly 3d planes and helis. I started in the late 70s, took a 15 year break, came back and was shocked. I love no fb easier to set up no balancing, no drag, makes scale ship look real. In the late 80s I built a long ranger after the long ranger we had here in town, with scout guts. Won 2nd place in scale, think I would got 1st but I had a fb. Got pics with the real long ranger pilot holding my long ranger in front of the real long ranger. Even though I fly 3d I still love my scale ships. Flying now a bell 222 800 size lights, retracts, 766 blades.

E5s and E7se,and a 766, Roban bell 222 800 superscale,450 bell 4 bladed head,gobby 380and 420 ,180cfx

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10-27-2016 02:29 PM  10 months agoPost 33
rcheliheaddaz

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I'm one of the crazy azzed hangers on to the Nexus heli's. Been in the hobby since my first glider way back in 1973. I have been dedicated to control flight as I am absolutely no good at all at 3D or even acrobatic flight. Just don't have the nerve or reflex.
But,
I have patience in bucket loads, So I fly slow and tune my Nexus so that it is probably one of the best flying out their (Easier to say these days) as not many people even want to say the name any longer. And before you all start I have been through the but it is a pile nonsense.
For me it was a challenge. I got the pitch issues sorted out with a bit of finishing of the parts. Mine sits their with the engine at idle and no clutch engagement at all. I have introduced it to a few better quality parts too. I love to perfect it as much as you can. So I got hold of another. I still like to fly them. I have a few more parts if I need them.

Heli's for me.. I have not even got a quad though I do see the attraction of FPV flight.

Have a good day
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Regards Dazza,;

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10-29-2016 05:05 PM  10 months agoPost 34
wc_wickedclown (RIP)

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long beach calif

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I'm with you brothers
I'm building 2 now almost done and ready to fly

batteries prices got me down atm hopefully this nitro bird will
stretch me out til i get some cash for a lipo for my 450s and 1 500.

feel bad i have not flown in a while just got my sims working again on my new laptop people still love the site of my helicopters.

im hanging in here until the last part cant be found until everyone comes back. or die having fun.

Insha Allah made in america

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11-02-2016 07:28 PM  10 months agoPost 35
MartyH

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I do find myself explaining myself to people when I tell them I fly R/C helicopters. First they lump them in with drones and then say something that makes me realize they think R/C helis fly like drones meaning they're so stable and artificially controlled with electronics that any bird brain can fly them. You can't go over the top tooting your own horn but more and more people tend to discount the skill needed in the r/c heli arena.

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11-02-2016 08:42 PM  10 months agoPost 36
airboss

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^^^^^ right on target Marty ^^^^

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11-11-2016 12:34 AM  10 months agoPost 37
junkpilot

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Something to consider

If you build your own drone such as a racer the drone is going to cost you $500.00 plus an equal amount fore googles and camera.
Now consider building a 700 heli. $1000.00 for the kit $200 for batteries, 300.00 for a speed control. $200.00 For a Gyro,$4oo.00 for batteries.
It's not our fault but heils are getting pricey.
Junkpilot

When you fly JUNK it's hard to tell when you've crashed!

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11-11-2016 04:07 PM  10 months agoPost 38
airboss

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a lame excuse for a lack of skills

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11-11-2016 04:21 PM  10 months agoPost 39
whirlyspud

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"I will never give up building my skills and trying new moves"

Have you ever thought that many of the people flying quads are long time helicopter pilots and what they are doing by flying quads is exactly what you are saying? All flying quads are to me is a variation on the same theme.

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11-11-2016 08:02 PM  10 months agoPost 40
airboss

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the quad flies like a plane due to the lack of pitch and cyclic control

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