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HelicopterFlybar Rotor Head Systems › Where are all of my flybar friends?
10-06-2016 07:45 PM  13 months agoPost 1
PaulBowen

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Victoria, Australia.

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I have just gone from all flbarless electric to FBL elecric and a FBL gasser and now I have slowly added 3 glow. Two of my glow helicopters have flybars.

I had forgotten how much I loved glow engines and really love the more natural feel of the flybar.

Anyone else doing similar?

Futaba T18SZ, JR Propo XG14, Hirobo fanatic!

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10-06-2016 08:15 PM  13 months agoPost 2
CostaRicaHeli

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Costa Rica, Central​America

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I'm still flying a FB MA Fury 55. Love it. Moving on to FBL and electric because that's where everything is going, but will keep my nitro FB flying for a long time.

Franz

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10-08-2016 09:08 PM  13 months agoPost 3
payne1967

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most of my heli's are flybared and nitro
so they never went away

www.alcesterhelicopterclub.bmfa.org

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10-08-2016 09:12 PM  13 months agoPost 4
HREFAB

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Long Island NY

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I recently acquired a Hirobo Freya 90 with Flybar head. I'm now studying up on how to setup the Futaba Gy601 Gyro. I have a CGY750 new in the box but the last one of them that I had made me crazy trying to get it to fly right.(On a 500 Compass). It's one HUGE bird but I really miss flying Fuel. I'd love to have a Gasser but at this point, I have to concentrate of the Freya.

Trex 700/600/550/500/450/250- GOBLIN 500 /RCA470-Warp360/500-200srx/130x/MCpx/MSR-550Hex/450Hex

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10-08-2016 09:34 PM  13 months agoPost 5
Mike0251

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Hills of the Blue​Ridge VA

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Here you go for the 601, explains it very nicely.
Everything I have is flybar too!(predominantly Hirobo!)
http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=38075

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10-08-2016 10:26 PM  13 months agoPost 6
PaulBowen

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Victoria, Australia.

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It's taken me a while to realise why I love RC helicopters and why I entered this hobby in the first place. I am building a Freya OP II with SSZ-4 head at the moment and can't wait to fly it.

The simplification of electric models and flybarless systems seemed great initially until the boredom crept in. There are so many classic helicopters to own and I would love them all.

Futaba T18SZ, JR Propo XG14, Hirobo fanatic!

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10-30-2016 12:25 AM  12 months agoPost 7
jake21

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ontario canada

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Still flying my raptors and panteras with flybars. I cant imagine fbl is much better. Nitro only.

The only way to not crash is up

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10-30-2016 01:11 AM  12 months agoPost 8
KJH

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Interlochen, MI

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Bergen Intrepid Gasser

I flew this, today...

-Kevin

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10-30-2016 09:15 PM  12 months agoPost 9
payne1967

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recently I've been flying my turbulence, Freya and sceadu ex
all with the flybar attached

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10-30-2016 10:03 PM  12 months agoPost 10
PaulBowen

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I know Hirobo are seen as expensive but I would love to see them make a major come back. They last forever.

Futaba T18SZ, JR Propo XG14, Hirobo fanatic!

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10-30-2016 10:56 PM  12 months agoPost 11
payne1967

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it depends on what you call expensive
my turbulence has cost me £22.50 in spares from new 5/6 years ago
the trex 700n I had cost £350 in 6 months of ownership on spares (it was never crashed and never had a hard landing)
I sold the trex airframe and purchased the turbulence
I made the mistake of buying a cheaper kit when the uk price was listed for the turbulence

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10-31-2016 12:28 AM  12 months agoPost 12
PaulBowen

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Unfortunately it is very hard for some people to get the point about initial cost vs long term operating cost.

Futaba T18SZ, JR Propo XG14, Hirobo fanatic!

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10-31-2016 02:15 AM  12 months agoPost 13
ICUR1-2

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Ottawa, Ontario

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I miss the flybar days, if parts didn't disappear I would still be using one

On the plus side there are so many FBL units on the market to make them less expensive

Watch at YouTube

spending time, paying attention

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10-31-2016 08:27 PM  12 months agoPost 14
payne1967

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Unfortunately it is very hard for some people to get the point about initial cost vs long term operating cost.
I'm a Hirobo, JR, flybar, nitro and all things helicopter fanatic!
so very true

www.alcesterhelicopterclub.bmfa.org

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11-02-2016 01:31 AM  12 months agoPost 15
oldfart

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Vancouver, Canada

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I still spend a lot of my flight time with flybar machines. If you know how to tune them (also necessary with most FBL systems)you can get them to be as gentle as you want or as quick as you want, except for "POP". They cannot be set up for as aggressive a "POP" because you cannot set them for as wide a collective span (e.g. +/- 15) or as much of a cyclic span (+/- 10).

Phil

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11-08-2016 10:46 PM  12 months agoPost 16
Copter Doctor

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Enterprise/ft.rucker​,al- home of army​aviation

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I am mostly a sport and scale flyer and also quite old school. I tried my habd at a few flybarless units and I found setting them up and adjusting to be more work than I would like. for me it was figuring out what I needed to adjust to make it feel comfortable. I have flown a few units belonging to friends and they all felt a bit funny to me, sort of like someone else was also on the controls with me. only the V-bar felt natural enough to be comfortable. lately I have had the opportunity to useone on one of my scale machines, a demon and it was very easy to set up and made my calm weather only scaler flyable in even the windiest of conditions. It still could use a little adjustment here and there but it actually feels good. Next scaler I build that seems to need help, may get a demon. Like many things in this hobby, I see it as a fad, one that may be with us a while but a fad none the less. For my two bladed scalers ( jetranger, longranger, bell 222 etc), I stick with a flybar since its not very noticeable in flight anyway.

drive a rotary, fly a rotorcraft

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04-28-2017 10:32 AM  6 months agoPost 17
Richardmid1

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Leeds, England

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my turbulence has cost me £22.50 in spares from new 5/6 years ago
the trex 700n I had cost £350 in 6 months of ownership on spares (it was never crashed and never had a hard landing)
Sorry I was just reading though this topic and saw this comment! What?! £350 in 6 months? How?

60% of the time, it works every time!

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04-29-2017 07:03 PM  6 months agoPost 18
balsabasher

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Central Ohio, USA

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I like the feel of a flybar machine. Never had the FBL ones lock into a hover like a flybar machine. I had flybar machines that sat in a hover hands off! Something to experience! I never experienced this on a FBL one.
Now the downside to flybar machines, hate the repair after a crash. A lot more time to reset-up the head vs FBL. Not to mention the pain to remove a bent up flybar with burrs from set screws. And suppliers of flybar parts are almost gone.
Just set-up a used JR Z230 heli that I bought. Of course I found it was not set-up properly by the previous owner. Halfway through I lost the joy of working on it and completed the set-up just to be done with it. I had forgotten all the extra work required on setting up a non-CCPM flybar heli.
I am a retired commercial/industrial HVAC service man who used a laptop to set-up controllers and trouble-shoot systems. So of course FBL controllers are not strange to me and I prefer setting up machines with a laptop and not lights, dials,or calibers and eye balls! I have also come to love digital pitch gauges for use on helis and planes!

Blades; what goes around, comes around!

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04-29-2017 09:21 PM  6 months agoPost 19
payne1967

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uk

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how to spend £350 in 6 months with an early kit trex700n
a complete set of rod ends as the kit ones were un-useable (the bendy link model)
after its first 5 flights a complete set of bearings
5 x swash plates
many clutch failures
main gears that lasted no more than 4 flights and in the end lasting a flight
tail drive gears wearing out
auto bearings failing
frame delaminating
etc

and it never crashed or had a hard landing, in fact it flew well
auto'd great

www.alcesterhelicopterclub.bmfa.org

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05-02-2017 09:44 PM  6 months agoPost 20
main rotor

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Pomona NY USA

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I just built a trex 700 gasser over this past winter , and used a flybar head. Lots of people selling heads $50-$75 complete. Works great for me.Its way more capable than my skills allow so until i outgrow it why change to FBL.

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