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01-29-2017 11:22 AM  5 months agoPost 41
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Perth

I believe it might have been Brian.

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02-07-2017 03:56 AM  4 months agoPost 42
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Brendan from Oz

Is there a Brendan F3C pilot from Australia?

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02-07-2017 03:58 AM  4 months agoPost 43
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Freya EX-II SWM 0414-938 Manual

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Does anyone know where I can download a PDF of this manual? Thanks!

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02-14-2017 02:25 AM  4 months agoPost 44
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0414-949 Freya Evolution OP SWM SSL-II

Just in case you were wondering, this is the current version Freya available from Hirobo. Some pictures of the kit for your viewing pleasure.

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02-14-2017 09:46 AM  4 months agoPost 45
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I have a large lot of Hirobo manual / partlist pdfs I have collected during the last a couple of years when the old Hirobo site was still accessible.

I have EX-II SWM part list pdf, but not manual

You can refer back to any version of Freya manual, I have found that the part list is more important and the manual is compatible with multiple variations due to the nature of the Hirobo parts, they are largely compatible between different variations of Freya

If you want the part list, send me a message with your email address and I will zip it up and send to you

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02-15-2017 10:00 PM  4 months agoPost 46
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petiteway

Hey mate, thanks for the manuals! Now a valuable treasured part of my iBooks file. These will keep me busy during my long lonely regional flights

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03-08-2017 08:18 AM  3 months agoPost 47
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03-13-2017 05:02 AM  3 months agoPost 48
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Hi, i'm really interested in the kit part number for the new Freya SSL-II as i'm interested in seeing the manual. Can't find it on the Hirobo website at all.

Main thing i'm interested in is whether it is 120 deg or 135 deg CCPM setup.

Freya before is only able to be setup as 120 deg but some of the photo's I have seen show the newer swash plate used on the SSL-II head which can only use 135 deg setup so is a little conflicting.

Be interested to see if they changed the frames or made the new swash plate compatible with 120 deg and 135 deg setups which they should have done in the first place.

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03-13-2017 08:08 AM  3 months agoPost 49
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0414-949 Freya Evolution OP SWM SSL-II

The manual is the old one with a flybar and SSZ-V head. Included is the 'Additional Manual' shown in the pics.

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03-13-2017 08:18 AM  3 months agoPost 50
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0414-576 EX2 swashplate 135

This is the part # for the Eagle 3 SWM EP swash plate which is a 135 degree only. Pics are from the manual. The same swashplate was used with the SSZ-V on the Eagle 3 SWM 2008 AOCC.

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03-13-2017 10:34 AM  3 months agoPost 51
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Its not the same...
The swash from aocc he have and 120 and 135.The swash from eagle 3 wc with ssl-ii head he have only 135.
Check this out
http://www.rcjapan.net/index.php?ma...oducts_id=18546
Code 0414-581

Hirobo SDX D3 Fbl - ALIGN T-REX 700 F3C V3 FL HEAD-ALIGN T-REX 500 DFC

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03-13-2017 10:44 AM  3 months agoPost 52
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You can see from the first page Iyoy attached of the 0414-949 Freya SSL-II that they have now made a new swash plate again with the added resolution for the SSL-II in a 120/135 deg version.

This seems to be the new 0414-581 which confirms what I was thinking.

Hirobo should have made the swash like this in the first place instead of making the 135 deg only version for the Eagle SSL-II kit.

Nikos, the swash included in the Eagle SSL-II kit is actually 0414-576 which only has 135 deg. 0414-581 is new again and included in the Freya SSL-II kit which has both 120 & 135 deg options.

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03-14-2017 11:33 PM  3 months agoPost 53
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Hirobo Philosophy

All the Eagle WC and AOCC models are specifically designed for F3C. Freyas are dual purpose designs meant for F3C or 3D/F3N. In my opinion, Hirobo designed and built the 135o only swashplate exclusively for the Eagle and never realised they could save on the part number inventory by marketing the unified part. Also, Eagles don't usually have a radius stay.

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03-15-2017 08:07 PM  3 months agoPost 54
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Hi....
The code 0414-581 its older code than 0414-576.
The swash 0414-581 its both for 120 and 135 deg.
This code i put into my SDX for upgrade with SL-II head when i change from flybar to flybarless.
This code he give the hirobo for upgrade to put into freya because the freya its only 120 and for eagle because the eagle have and 135.
The last code its 0414-576 its new only 135 swashplate that he give with new last eagle 3 ep wc SSl-2 head and this swash he have change and the inner pivot bolt.
Check the pics

Hirobo SDX D3 Fbl - ALIGN T-REX 700 F3C V3 FL HEAD-ALIGN T-REX 500 DFC

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03-16-2017 08:28 AM  3 months agoPost 55
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Nikos,

The photo on the right is actually 0414-472 which was the swash plate bought out on the D3 which as you say has 120/135. SDX had the same except plastic version. Check the manual if you wish.

0414-581 is a brand new part that has the same inner ring with dual position option same as the 0414-576 that was used for the Eagle3 EP SSL-II kit. You can clearly see this on the diagram that Iyoy attached as part of the addendum for the new Freya kit.

Hirobo don't release parts in odd part number order. If the numbers are later as in 581 is after 576 then you can be guaranteed to be a newer part.
0414- series are for specific parts for 90 series kits as in Eagle/Freya/D3 While 0412- series are for 50 size as in SDX/Sceadu etc.

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03-16-2017 03:25 PM  3 months agoPost 56
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Oups....Sorry my mistake.
I see that he put out new for both 135-120 like the 414578 from sl2 head with the pivot bolt also like 578.
I thing this he made for freya first and for the users that he have txs that he dont have 135-140.
I now the code that 412 its for 50size and 414 for 90.
Sorry my mistake

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03-16-2017 05:09 PM  3 months agoPost 57
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All good, it can get a little confusing withe all the new parts out.

TBH I don't think Hirobo were thinking of the Freya 120 swash when the SSL-II and new swash plate came out hence only 135 deg. Which really was a lack of foresight which when you think of it, they did the same thing originally with the Eagle. They made a 135deg only swash then bought out the 120/135 deg version with the D3. Think they would have learned.

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03-17-2017 02:36 AM  3 months agoPost 58
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Eagle 3 SWM AOCC SSZ-V

Here are some screenshots from the manual. This particular variation represents a unique feature of the Eagle 3 SWM which differentiates it from the EX, Freya, D3V2 and other SWM models of Hirobo. Eagles have an elevator level in the forward link of the 135o swashplate and no radius stay, whereas all others have an additional link at the rear held by a radius stay.

I first saw Hashimoto using the SWM Eagle 3 during the 2006 CAOCC in Ota City, Japan. The VPUS had been deactivated but he was still using the SSR-VII head. It was the first time I saw the 135o only swashplate. It wasn't out on the market yet and was exclusively for Hashimoto. The rest of us including Enio Graber had the 120o only swashplate. The combination 120/135 had not even been designed yet. This would appear later on the Dominik version SDX. The following year, at the Worlds in Wlòclawek, he was already using the SSZ-IV. By 2008, the AOCC in Cebu, Philippines, it was the all new SSZ-V head.

The first things we noticed about that swashplate was the 135o configuration and the use of the elevator lever as well as the absence of the radius stay.

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04-03-2017 11:36 PM  85 days agoPost 59
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FREYA Evolution OP SWM SSLII

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