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08-27-2016 08:32 PM  11 months agoPost 1
rcheliguymtl

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Montreal, Quebec - Canada

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if i dont want to do any 3D flying and just hover with a nitro heli which kit do you recommend?

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08-27-2016 10:35 PM  11 months agoPost 2
don s

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Chesapeake, VA

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They all work fine. Just get the one that is the easiest to source parts for.

E820, Raptor G4N, X50F/E, E620, Forza 450, and some planks.

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09-01-2016 01:09 PM  11 months agoPost 3
grim.the.grim

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Houston, Texas

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The Pantera has been around, is durable, great flying bird, and has great parts support. Not to mention great support from Audacity

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09-07-2016 05:20 PM  11 months agoPost 4
Blackline

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Claremore, Ok, U.S.A.

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any of them are going to fly, look for something that is not going to be hard to find parts for like synergy, align, sab,

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09-07-2016 10:21 PM  11 months agoPost 5
ICUR1-2

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Ottawa, Ontario

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Do they make a none 3D kit?

I believe Century is gone

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11-21-2016 07:17 PM  9 months agoPost 6
Richardmid1

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Leeds, England

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If you are looking at nitro for the flight times you can get more flight time out of an electric helicopter just hovering.

60% of the time, it works every time!

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11-22-2016 04:06 AM  9 months agoPost 7
Gamb

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Belle Mead, NJ USA

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+1 Electric

I know, you are asking about "which nitro", but the writing is on the wall. Nitro's are a dying breed. It is almost all electric. IRCHA did not have many nitro flying in competition (if any). Electrics have the same if not more power; flight duration about the same as nitro (you could maybe get more flight time with a gasser), You don't need all the support equipment you would need with a nitro; glow plug battery, starter, fuel, fuel pump, etc. No mess at the end of the day. No clutch, adjusting the throttle, needle valves, etc. Nitro fuel will run about $20.00 to $25.00 / gallon, and can't be shipped that easily, so shipping charges are high, unless you can find some for sale in your local hobby shop.

I used to fly nitro planes in the past; I was out of the hobby for a while, and when I came back, electrics had really come into their own. All my heli's are electric. They actually sit on the top shelf in my clothes closet. You can't do that with a nitro.

Overall, for just flying around, you will have a lot more enjoyment with less hassle with and electric heli. If you really want a nitro, the selection is very slim for new models. There are plenty in the classified sections if you really want them.

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11-22-2016 05:25 AM  9 months agoPost 8
Tool Man Vegas

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Las Vegas, Nevada, U.S.A

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I enjoy flying both nitro and electric. I would go with an os50 hyper. They released a new version of the hirobo SDX.

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11-22-2016 10:52 AM  9 months agoPost 9
Richardmid1

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Leeds, England

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You don't need all the support equipment you would need with a nitro; glow plug battery, starter, fuel, fuel pump, etc.
That is true if you were to have multiple flight packs but for flying all day with electric your going to need a geny, power supply and expensive charger. I don't fly all day anymore (kids!) but when I did it would get a bit tiresome with the geny and the charging equipment and keeping track of whats charged and what isn't etc.

I fly both and for my nitro I have a plastic moulded case that houses a 3L fuel tank, electric fuel pump, starter and glow stick (old school!) so I carry that and my heli with my TX case under my arm and im good for around 40 minutes air time. I would need to carry 20 6s 5000mah packs to fly the same amount of time on a 700e.

60% of the time, it works every time!

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11-22-2016 12:34 PM  9 months agoPost 10
ICUR1-2

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Ottawa, Ontario

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I know I love it when someone says nitro needs " all that support equipment "
a starter, a jug of fuel an extra rx lipo and TX and I'm good for the whole day.

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11-22-2016 12:47 PM  9 months agoPost 11
Heli_Splatter

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USA

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Any helicopter can hover well, it is all in the radio/electronic/mechanical setup. Hovering gets a bit old after a while. Nice forward flight will possible.

Get some help with your setup and you will be fine. Just set up good low rates and not much negative pitch.

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11-22-2016 03:54 PM  9 months agoPost 12
Tool Man Vegas

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Las Vegas, Nevada, U.S.A

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On board glow and a big 2s lipo. Plus the rush of a screaming nitro on the pipe. Ahhhhh. You either love it or not.

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11-23-2016 11:32 AM  9 months agoPost 13
HeliDinoRC

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Virginia, USA

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I'm just getting into nitro this next season and after consulting many in this hobby I decided to build a Synergy N5C (600 size) with an OS 55HZR engine. It's a very nice kit!

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03-31-2017 07:51 AM  4 months agoPost 14
joshreynolds777

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Willis, Tx

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dang where are you getting nitro for $25 a Gallon !!!!!???? Man Ive been paying $40 !!!

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03-31-2017 01:56 PM  4 months agoPost 15
iyoy

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Bacolod City, Philippines

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Poison

If we were talking about poison, electric would be cocaine, nitro grass and gas booze. Having said that, to answer your question, I would go for a nice Hirobo SDX SWM OP SSL-II available now from Jeff Green on Hirobo Fan USA.

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07-12-2017 10:39 AM  39 days agoPost 16
awsomechoppers

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Pfafftown, NC

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My local hobby shop has nitro 30% for about $32. But I've flown my buddies N7 and after doing 3D it only last about 5min. Flying my 690 doing 3D with 1800rpm (not sure what my buddy was running) I could get 10min with still 35% left in the packs. If you're looking for flight time electric is definitely the way to go, but I must admit, that nitro does smell good!

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07-12-2017 11:02 AM  39 days agoPost 17
Richardmid1

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Leeds, England

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But I've flown my buddies N7 and after doing 3D it only last about 5min. Flying my 690 doing 3D with 1800rpm (not sure what my buddy was running) I could get 10min with still 35% left in the packs. If you're looking for flight time electric is definitely the way to go, but I must admit, that nitro does smell good!
Something is a miss here for sure.

Your buddies N7 was probably running way too rich with no header tank.

Also just hovering a 690 at 1800 rpm wouldn't get you 10 minutes with 35% left!

Lets not twist the facts or this thread is going to turn into yet another E vs. N.

60% of the time, it works every time!

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07-12-2017 11:55 AM  39 days agoPost 18
MattJen

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UK

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I'm finding a lot of Nitro models on Ebay, I still fly my Xcel Fury Tempest Nitro, I see loads of Nitro machines, Shuttles,Raptor 50's etc, I appreciate spares are hard to find for most of them but there is a few good ebay shops that ship all over the world that have plenty of spares.

I know with my xcell I did have to hunt but I have plenty of spares now just as xcell Germany starts LOL.

I love my nitro, I have had electric, I just don't like the instant power, scares life out of me that along with my very bad experience with a lypo fire which cost me my entire model collection.. so I have stuck to turbines and Nitro..

Enjoy what ever you choose, there are some very experienced people here who will always help... and answer questions.
Matt

All The Best

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07-12-2017 03:18 PM  39 days agoPost 19
learnedthehrdwy

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Saginaw, MI

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Don't automatically write off 3d either. Said I wasn't interested in 3d when I was just getting started. Tried a couple flips and rolls on the sim playing around and once I did one in RL I was hooked bad!!

Basic 3d like flips and rolls are easier than flying a figure 8 but very fun and exciting. Great for impressing your non-flying friends who have been watching helicopters hover and cruise around their whole life but never seen one do a flip. Go inverted, dip down then chop up some weeds and they'll lose their @#&-* minds lol

Don't need to be a smack pilot, a handful of basic 3d maneuvers mixed in with sport flying helps keep things fun and interesting.

Just a thought...

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07-12-2017 04:47 PM  39 days agoPost 20
Pistol_Pete

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Seffner, FL

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Which Nitro?

High budget...Synergy
Low budget...Pantera (If still available, their christmas add still running is a no brainer deal)

Why the above two? Customer Service. I hear and read nothing but good about them.

Go ahead and send either one an email, then send one to Align.

Align "to me" is like what Hewlett-Packard computers were, they have so many flavors that it becomes a headache sourcing what you need from-one-shop.

* * * * * *
Electrics have the same if not more power; flight duration about the same as nitro (you could maybe get more flight time with a gasser)
Electrics absolutely have more power than glow models.
Gassers absolutely fly longer than glow and electric.

I absolutely needed to clarify that.

When it comes down to between electric or glow, the absolute bottom line these days is sourcing the glow fuel.

~~Enjoying the hobby one flight at a time~~

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