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07-07-2016 04:36 AM  11 months agoPost 1
Infarcted

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I just picked up several sets of 600 mm JR wooden blades which are brand new. I wonder if they can be used in FBL helis (I will be building a TSA Pro 600) soon .I am not a 3D person.
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07-07-2016 04:48 AM  11 months agoPost 2
Cowjock

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Flew wooden blades for years doing loops and rolls. Don't see why you can't use them on fbl units. Just make sure that the blade holders are glued and that they are balanced.

Damn that ground is hard! When's the right time to get out of this money sucking hobby?

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07-07-2016 09:46 AM  11 months agoPost 3
MattJen

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We did fly on woodies for years as prev poster mentioned, but we were using nitro engines that weren't as powerful and our head speeds were a lot slower than the modern Electric 3D helies of today.

so bear this in mind as Woodies will not cope with the high head speeds that we are accustomed to today, so you may have to slow the head speed down or the heli will throw a blade which is not a nice thing to happen.

All The Best

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07-07-2016 02:26 PM  11 months agoPost 4
don s

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Woods are limited to about 1600rpm.

E820, Raptor G4N, X50F/E, E620, Forza 450, and some planks.

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07-07-2016 02:37 PM  11 months agoPost 5
gwright

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flew them for many years at much higher revs than that,.. 1750~1800 was common, and I spun my old Robbe Magics at 2K for a while. Must build them well, secure the weights properly, which is the real key, and balance well.

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07-07-2016 03:16 PM  11 months agoPost 6
artimus

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Thats just looking for trouble.....

Fly Hard......Team Viagra

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07-07-2016 06:22 PM  11 months agoPost 7
banshee rider

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gwright
flew them for many years at much higher revs than that,.. 1750~1800 was common, and I spun my old Robbe Magics at 2K for a while. Must build them well, secure the weights properly, which is the real key, and balance well.
What he said ^^^^^^^^^

I agree 100% flew woodies from 1700 to 1900 rpm all the time
long before fiberglass or carbon fiber blades were even made
never a problem

on a flybarless head the chord wise cg may not be optimal
but there shouldn't be any problem spinning them up to 1800/1900 rpm

ageing is manditory maturity is optional

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07-07-2016 07:11 PM  11 months agoPost 8
old nitroman

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I do not remember who made the woodies that I used but they had a plastic or nylon clamp that went around the blade at the holder and bolted in,then a thick bronze insert for the blade bolt to go threw. Maybe MA. but I run 2000-2150 with them on my scouts, for years and had no problems. The plane wood holders would let go.

E5s and E7se,and a 766, Roban bell 222 800 superscale,450 bell 4 bladed head,gobby 380and 420 ,180cfx

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07-07-2016 08:32 PM  11 months agoPost 9
gwright

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wood grip reinforcements were Yale, and another I forget. Plastics were/are century and were miniature.I think Kyosho was plastic root reinforcements on their "marshmallow" blades for concept 60. Much much later were plastic reinforcements for thunder tiger.

Gary Wright
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07-07-2016 09:41 PM  11 months agoPost 10
GREYEAGLE

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You Can't Do That > Ole What's his face said they don't fly ---- Here's a Tip

Are THEM Woodies ?/ Them are N0 GOOD !

OK !

When selecting your contact shelf paper. For the wrapping.

Do NOT select paisley / plaid / or them yellow daisy patterns.

They do NOT allow that at ALL -- It's Just Not Right

Them wooden ones do not turn clockwise worth a hoot either.
Fly No -Good .

Besides : The Bug's Stick TOO EM !!!

greyeagle

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07-07-2016 10:25 PM  11 months agoPost 11
Heli_Splatter

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With everything we know about blades today, and the cost. I don't think that I would go backwards. 600 sized helis are not toys. Use the best products available.

Small part of the cost of the whole heli. I ran wood blades for a while on a smaller heli, moved to CF and never ran them again. Look around, you don't see anyone using them now.

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07-08-2016 01:23 AM  11 months agoPost 12
Eury

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Wood blades are no more dangerous today than they were back when that was the only option. The only exception to that would be if they have been sitting around forever and possibly been damaged. If you've got them, build them well, and keep them at 1900 or so or less (that's what I used to run on 600mm woodies), fly them.

I'd bet that 95% of the people on here are too new to the hobby to have ever seen woodies on a big heli. Go for it.

Nick Crego

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07-08-2016 03:25 PM  11 months agoPost 13
Tyler

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If you touch the ground with wood blades, remember that they can easily split along the grain and lamination joints. Covering with clear shrink wrap makes inspections easier than when using opaque shrink wrap or self adhesive paper.

When in doubt of damaged wood blades, throw them away.

Wood blades are fine for sport flying, even autos.

The non fbl weight distribution will only help stabilize and tame collective and cyclic response, perfect for beginner and sport flying.

Enjoy things that money can buy IF you don't lose the things money can't buy.

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