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04-04-2016 02:50 PM  14 months agoPost 1
Daves

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Tallahassee, Florida

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I'm looking for information from anyone with an astigmatism who has some hands-on experience finding goggles that provide good FPV vision. An astigmatism presents an additional challenge when selecting goggles.

A friend loaned me a set of FatShark Dom v1 to try. I tried the 2, 4, 6 diopter inserts in a variety of combinations, but the images in each was cloudy/fuzzy (some more than others) and none was adequate for flying. I also have another friend who is going to let me try his HeadPlay goggles.

With the large, and growing, number of guys involved in FPV flying today, there has to be a significant number of guys with an astigmatism who need goggles. Hopefully there's a manufacturer out there that has produced goggles that will solve the visual challenge of an astigmatism and that someone has some hands-on experience that can provide me with needed information. I can't afford to buy multiple goggles until I find a set that works.

Thanks for any guidance you can provide.

-- dave --

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04-04-2016 11:35 PM  14 months agoPost 2
eddiscus

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Do you wear contacts or just glasses?

I have used the Carl Ziess Cinemizers. Although pricey They adjust well to within my prescription with and without my contacts on. Depending on your level of astigmatism goggles are going to be difficult as the entire area of the screen may not be in perfect focus.

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04-04-2016 11:39 PM  14 months agoPost 3
Ace Dude

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It's my understanding the Zeiss Cinemizer's have been discontinued.

I also have Astigmatism and do not wear contacts. I'm also looking for a solution as I'd like to try FPV racing.

Daves, curious to hear what you think of the HeadPlay goggles after you try them.

  

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04-05-2016 12:41 AM  14 months agoPost 4
eddiscus

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Just saw that about the cinemizers. What ashame they were awesome. I have the headplay as well. They overall have the biggest screen but unless you order the third party lens mod I found the stock ones poor.

http://www.rho-lens.com

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04-05-2016 01:16 AM  14 months agoPost 5
Ace Dude

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Thanks for the heads-up on the RHO-Lens, I would need that.

I saw this on the RHO-Lens site:

"Focal point only 7.1 or 7.9 inch away. (18-20 cm.) People over 35 can no longer focus at this distance."

I feel old.

  

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04-05-2016 01:27 AM  14 months agoPost 6
TomC

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I am nearsighted with astigmatism and I find a -2 diopter on one eye and a-4 on the other works well for me with my Fatshark Dominator V2's.

You need to play with the ipd sliders (one eye at a time) and also adjust the goggle's position on your face. The new faceplate/fan makes this a lot easier to do than the old rubber eyecups imho.

Larger fov's like the monitors-in-a-box goggles do not work for me as some part(s) are always blury/distorted. For me the Fatshark HD v2's are also hard to get a good clear overall pic (but not too bad).

If I were you I would either try to find a good used set of FS Dom V2's or get the latest Fatshark Attitude V3's. A friend of mine has these and I found they worked very well. Probably because they have the same 32deg fov optics as my Dom V2's.

Also, I would avoid widescreen goggles like the FS Dom V3's because this is just going to spread the standard 4:3 aspect ratio to 16:9 and, together with your astigmatism, may make things more blury.

Lastly, it takes a few weeks to get used to any goggles. Don't just try them once and decide they do not work for you. If you stick with it I think you will find they give you the best immersive fpv experience.

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04-05-2016 02:09 AM  14 months agoPost 7
KJH

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Flying with one eye tied behind my back

I have astigmatism, too. I'm also very farsighted and from surgeries to straighten my eyes when I was an infant, I only see out of one eye at a time. I can use both eyes, but I have no stereo vision, so binoculars and FPV goggles don't work for me. I'm looking at one screen or the other. When I wanted to try FPV, I figured a small screen would be best. Not wanting to spend a lot, I purchased the Quanum V2 unit from Hobby King. I normally wear contacts; +10 in my left eye for close up and +8 in my right for distance. I found I still couldn't focus close enough to see the Quanum screen. So, I tried some reading glasses over the contacts and found a +3 magnifier worked well for my left eye to focus on the screen. Others have had success changing the Fresnel lens. I haven't tired this, yet. I've set the screen to 4:3 as this allows my left eye to see the whole screen. With the Quanum and Headplay, you can still wear glasses. It's not as "sexy" as goggles, but I'm having a ball flying FPV racing quads with this setup.

-Kevin

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04-05-2016 03:32 AM  14 months agoPost 8
TomC

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Kevin, you are an inspiration mate!

Amazing what some people can do to overcome their difficulties. Most seem to just give up and complain to manufacturers for not making a perfect product for their needs.

Cheers,
TomC

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04-05-2016 04:27 PM  14 months agoPost 9
Daves

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Yeah, I'll post what I learn after trying the Head Play goggles, but I'm pretty sure the aftermarket lens will be needed.

As I said, I tried multiple combinations of the diopter inserts with the Fat Shark Doms v1, but all were blury - none acceptable enough to use for flying.

Interesting about the Cinemizers being discontinued. While they were reportedly a good option, they were very expensive.

One of the problems those of us with vision issues face is that we can't afford to buy goggles just to try them. And, the FPV pilots, while a growing group, are still pretty scattered so that borrowing a set from a friend isn't an option either.

A few of the guys have bought a set of "readers" from Walmart and cut a set of inserts for their goggles, but success with that seems to have been very limited too.

Hopefully, there's a company out there that will come up with some options for those of us with an astigmatism. I am optimistic that, as this segment of the hobby grows, we'll see other options hit the street.

In the meantime, we need to keep sharing as much information and experience as possible.

-- dave --

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04-10-2016 07:42 PM  14 months agoPost 10
Doug

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Fatshark V3 blury

I go my FS V3 and was disappointed with the lack of focus. I guess they never tried them with "older" users (I'm 70) I need reading correction and distance correction and only "minus" diopter correction lenses are provided. I found a good solution; I bought a pair of plus 1.75 reading glasses and pulled the lenses. I taped them over for scratch protection and copied the outline of the FS corrective lenses on to the reading lenses. I then use a bench mounted belt sander to shape the lenses and the thin them to fit the slots. the result is an amazingly sharp display and I couldn't be happier. Using different lenses on each side could help those with different prescriptions on either side. It would be nice if FS provided "Plus" correction. lenses as well.

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05-07-2016 02:54 AM  13 months agoPost 11
KCinNC

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Mooresville, NC

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I have Astigmatism also. maybe not super bad. but I do have to wear glasses most of the time. I tried the box Quanum goggles just to see if I could do fpv. they weren't so good. I even modded them to get the monitor even farther away from my eyes. a friend let me try an old set of his Fatshark Teleporters. I was surprised, but I got a decent view. I even tried the diopters. they seemed to make things worse. so I kept flying with the Teleporters. I decided to take a chance and do an upgrade.

I got a set of the Fatshark Attitude V3's. I was blown away ! with the faceplate, I have an awesome view of everything. took my fpv flying to a new level.

nothing to it but to do it

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05-09-2016 02:35 PM  13 months agoPost 12
Daves

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Glad you found something that works well for you. I think the key to this vision thing is to try various goggles until you find something that will work. Obviously, there's no one solution for all.

I tried a set of Fatshark Dominators V1 and couldn't see well enough to fly. I even tried all 3 diopter sets (mixed, matched, etc.) and they didn't help at all.

Then a couple of weeks ago I was able to borrowed a set of Headplay goggles from a friend and they worked really well. I think the 3rd party lens will make them even better so I'm going to order one and give it a try. Its not expensive so worth a try.

-- dave --

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05-09-2016 03:30 PM  13 months agoPost 13
Ace Dude

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Thanks for the follow-up Dave.

  

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05-15-2016 05:23 AM  13 months agoPost 14
KCinNC

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awesome Daves ! gotta make sure we can see what we are flying !!

nothing to it but to do it

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