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12-18-2015 11:38 PM  22 months agoPost 41
Aaron29

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these things are everywhere and casting them out is not gonna work
Casting them out of the ama is silly,
AMA can do what I'm talking about without "kicking drones out".

Just because the AMA makes a compromise that costs only a certain segment of it's membership doesn't mean that segment is kicked out. Such as my example if they had to somehow preserve airplane rights at the expense of helis.

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12-20-2015 12:13 PM  22 months agoPost 42
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makes a compromise
Compromise?

Federal law is such that all RC aircraft for hobby use is exempt from regulation by the FAA...thanks to Senator James Inhofe(R-OK).

Sen. Inhofe was elected.

On the other hand, the FAA is run by a political hack named Michael Huerta....whose only expertise in life is to raise campaign funds for corrupt politicians.

Unelected bureaucrats cannot make law.

When the honorable Sen. Inhofe sponsored legislation that was passed into Fed. Law, the AMA "hierarchy" proclaimed "victory".

Now that same AMA hierarchy just recently acquiesced to the arbitrary and capricious wills of the FAA....as if they now feel that the FAA.....headed by a political "hack"...all of a sudden can now make law....??????

And now....their BS is to "hold off" on registration....

Only because of membership "backlash".

The AMA hierarchy needs to be replaced....lock, stock, and barrel.

If you...and the rest of us want to see action.....in our favor....

I suggest everyone contact Senator James Inhofe(R-OK), and question why in hell that some political hack like Huerta has the "nerve" to essentially "flip the bird" at Sen. Inhofe's legislation.

If the AMA hierarchy can't see this, then "screw them"...and it's now up to us...the "rank and file".

Here is the link to Senator Inhofe's website contact.

https://www.inhofe.senate.gov/contact

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12-20-2015 02:08 PM  22 months agoPost 43
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I have been in contact with the best congressman in Iowa who is Chuck Grassley he has been there a long time and has always been one that is for the ppl. One of the few. He is not in favor of what they have done.

I asked him about how they can do this and he said they can. First off it can be done if they say it is for national security then they have the power to override it. I think that using that is a B.S. excuse by the FAA because terrorists can use cars, trains, cell phones, planes and so on for that also. I don't see pressure cookers outlawed and they have killed more ppl.

Second reason is for ppl safety and that one is the problem. Ppl have been irresponsible starting with the dude that video taped the college a few years back. If you took one of those big camera ships and was flying it downtown New York and it quit running at a couple hundred ft above someone and it come down and hit them on the head it would be like dropping a bowling ball on them. It would mess them up. And ppl can say that they don't do that and that is also B.S. Cause I watch them fly them over me at just about every fun fly anymore. We can't take our airplanes downtown and do that nor our helis but they for some reason think they can with those. I don't know why

EEngineer is right tho we need to contact that senators office too and voice our displeasure as congress can change the regulation. He did say that also. Unfortunately we are prolly stuck with this one for now as he said they couldn't eve put it up for discussion until fall of next year.

Also remember this administration has a habit of doing this type of stuff on their own and even if it is overridden the president has the power to executive order it as if this one ain't done that enough. We need to remember one that is running for president thinks he has done great and will keep his orders and policies so we need to try and contact the others and see what their views are and if they would end this non working nonsense.

I hate to see ppl come down on the AMA. They DO NOT have the power to stop this period. All they can do is the same as us and present our case. We also are not like the NRA. We don't have a huge membership. We have a 180000 or so? That is like a fart in a whirlwind and that is gonna make this a tough road to hoe. Especially when 60 to 70% won't even vote.

Huerta or however you spell his name is not elected he is appointed. I hate to say it but if someone is voted into the presidency we are in for 8 years of more of the same. I know they are only voted in for four but amazingly there are enough stupid ppl out there to keep voting them back in

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12-20-2015 06:45 PM  22 months agoPost 44
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Ouch. We are going to lose the "freedom vs. security" fight. Our country sold out on that idea with the Patriot Act and everyone accepting NSA spying.

Sigh. That's a tough realization. If that's the rationale for all this, we don't stand a chance.

But again, I go back to IT AIN'T GOING TO MAKE ANYTHING SAFER. Stupid FAA thinks gun control style laws will stop criminals.

As for morons who can't bother to pay attention to TFR's, they aren't going to pay attention to registration either.

And I'm certain a terrorist strapping explosives to a model will be sure to put their registration in it.

This type of idiot lawmaking is going to bring this country down. Government continues to pass laws without adequate enforcement that do nothing to stop real threats and only harm the law abiding.

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12-20-2015 06:53 PM  22 months agoPost 45
LaDon

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Aaron it s already heading that way. You are right it won't fix a thing. It just gives the simple minds the feeling that they did something to earn their money. I just wish they would do nothing anymore and I would be more than happy to pay them for doing just that

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12-20-2015 06:56 PM  22 months agoPost 46
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And the sheep are as guily as the shepherd in thinking you can police with the pen. Pass a law that harms law abiding, is easily ignored by the nefarious, do nothing to enforce it, and yet the sheep will applaud thinking that their precious government has made them safer and their tax money went to something worth while.

The sheep are as guilty as the shepherd in thinking you can fix everything with a pen and more government.

60% of our country thinks it's fine the NSA has their phone records, even though there's no evidence this type of Fourth Amendment violation has yielded any results.

People have rolled over on the Constitution and in doing so, no longer deserve the rights that were fought for.

Sorry. In a mood.

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12-20-2015 07:03 PM  22 months agoPost 47
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They may have. But mostly because it is really tough to do anything about it. Look at the presidential elections coming up. Say Hilary and Trump get in. It wouldn't surprise me if Trump don't get the popular vote in a lot of states but the electoral college will vote the other way. They are not supposed to but they have. When these ppl get in the sneak things through that ppl don't know about just to help them. Not us. And there is none of use that know all the laws. That would take a lifetime to memorize. To a point we are hosed. This country is one sad step away from being communist

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12-20-2015 07:05 PM  22 months agoPost 48
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The people will get the government they demand.

And thus deserve.

So much apathy. If what becomes of that is tyranny, well,

"The price of freedom is eternal vigilance."

Well, enjoy your government folks. Whatever form it takes, you earned it.

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12-20-2015 11:05 PM  22 months agoPost 49
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or is it?

GOT FBL?

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12-21-2015 03:54 PM  22 months agoPost 50
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If i put a camera on my goblin it is now a drone....no doubt about it. They need to regulate but no One has a good way to do it. Not that ive heard at least.
I'm not sure it is so hard to regulate actually. HAM radio operators have to have a license to transmit signals into the air from high powered transmitters, and the reasons are pretty obvious.

If I'm not mistaken, according to FCC rules, transmitters cannot transmit using over a couple of milliwatts of power legally in the U.S. without a HAM license. This corresponds to range in terms of how far video can be transmitted(what comes in to your FPV googles or video screen). When I looked into this well over a year ago, most of the Chinese transmitters for FPV purposes coming into the country were well above the legal limit. Make the transmitters used for this require licensing and a tag to use legally. Really all that would require is enforcing existing laws I believe and I think it would leave the low-cost and fpv racing quads alone.

Ban the Ban.

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