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12-16-2015 03:56 PM  22 months agoPost 1
Rick_H

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Make no mistake: unmanned aircraft enthusiast are aviators, and with that title comes a great deal of responsibility,” said U.S. Transportation Secretary Anthony Foxx.
So with this statement he gave us all the title of full fledged aviators Which as I see it puts us under the FAA Umbrella so we can after we register our drones all go down to the local Air Port and fly our Drones off the FAA funded Airports as we are now paying for the Aviator Title just given to us. More Flying Fields, Ya!

Note: I am not promoting actually doing this, however if we all were to go to our local AirPorts and notify them of intent prior this registration going active on the 21st. The Calls from these Airports to the FAA may get the FAA to think about this a little more.

Oh, On that same note, Lets start writing letters for FAA funding for our flying fields, They fund the full scale and they want us under their control so they should also fund our fields. A flying field for every City. if they don't want us flying at the full scale fields. Lets turn this into a positive for US.

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12-16-2015 05:04 PM  22 months agoPost 2
raholek

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Good news

First positive comment yet.

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12-16-2015 05:11 PM  22 months agoPost 3
Aaron29

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The media would demonize this action and we'd get even more of a slap in the face. Don't.

The more responsible and unobtrusive we are as modelers, the easier it will be to fight what's come. If we act the fool while advocating for reversal, it'll never come.

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12-16-2015 06:07 PM  22 months agoPost 4
jharkin

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????

Since when does the FAA fund operation of airports?

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12-16-2015 06:11 PM  22 months agoPost 5
revmix

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Aviator Title just given to us. More Flying Fields, Ya!
r/c operation Safety Code is not by FAA but nationwide community based clubs therefore no federal airfields [special interest] for hobbyists

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12-16-2015 08:38 PM  22 months agoPost 6
LaDon

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Jeremy they may not be funded directly by the FAA but by tax dollars. Depending on how many landings there are there determines how much they get. That is all kept track of by the FAA. At the little airport we fly at they have done a bunch with money from that. It is from the spray planes coming in for a month. Generally kicks us out for a month of the summer but the airport is becoming real nice from it.

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12-17-2015 12:14 AM  22 months agoPost 7
jharkin

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Don-

I'm aware of the FAA Airport Improvement Program that provides grants for aiding capital improvement projects at airports. I just looked it up and the numbers I saw where something like 14% of capital improvements at large commercial airports and 20-something % of projects at regional s last year.

Are there other FAA programs that provide funding? (Im asking not arguing)

The rest of hte operating expenses I was under the impression come from them operating authority (i.e. the NYC port Authority running JFK & Laguardia, Massport running Logan Boston, and so on) which typically make revenues from the fees they charge airlines for terminal space, parking, concessions, and the rest from state and local taxes.

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12-17-2015 12:24 AM  22 months agoPost 8
LaDon

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Well I don't know for sure anymore. I used to work at an airport for several years. I was an airplane mechanic. I have not done that for 11 years. I have been away to either remember all of it or it has changed also

I would think on the large airports you are correct on that tho

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12-17-2015 05:35 AM  22 months agoPost 9
Rick_H

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If the FAA can dictate what can and can not be kept in the hangers at my small town airport because they provide funding to the Airport and threatened to pull the funding if the Airport and City did not enforce these rules, then they are funding something. The City started enforcing the rules. No more R/V, Cars or Boats kept in the hangers.

If you are silent, then you deserve what you get. Stand up for your rights or you will loose them. Put as much pressure as you can on the FAA for this. I am not advocating doing anything against the Law, but do call you Congressmen and Senators, Fill out the paperwork for grants, funds, what ever the FAA has to offer for Full Scale request it for Drones (R/C Aircraft), Heck put in a report for every mid air that happens at the flying field. Ask for an investigation to find out what caused your aircraft to crash. They are responsible for investigating all aircraft crashes under there jurisdiction, since they now want us under their jurisdiction they should get the responsibility to provide these.

Other Countries are out pacing the USA with inventions for these new drones, and these rules are putting this Country in last place. The number of Jobs that will never happen in this country because of this is a crime.

If our government would enforce the laws against the law breakers there is no reason for them to do stuff like this.

Government Law Making Mentality:
Punish the Many for the acts of the Few.

Rick

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12-17-2015 05:58 AM  22 months agoPost 10
Aaron29

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You won't find many full size pilots that will recommend defying the FAA or playing games. Going toe to toe with the FAA is not good advice.

The only way to bend the FAA's will is through congress, boys.

I recommend CONSTRUCTIVE, not rash, action, here.

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12-17-2015 06:33 AM  22 months agoPost 11
Rick_H

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So the question would be are there more R/C pilots in the USA or more full scale pilots. I can tell you there will be more after this Holiday season.

Did the FAA consider this before they made this decision?

If we band together like the NRA members we can change this. A show of Force (by Votes) goes along way.

Rick

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12-17-2015 06:38 AM  22 months agoPost 12
Aaron29

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We've neither the resources or numbers of the NRA. Nor do we have the Bill of Rights backing us up, as they do. Using that as a model just doesn't work.

Please consider calling your congressman instead of rash actions that will backfire. Don't you guys understand that this battle was first and foremost LOST IN THE MEDIA/PUBLIC eye before the FAA could move? If we act the fool, we will get the public ire and NEVER get support.

I want change. But it won't come with recklessness. It will come by getting congress, the only group with enough muscle to stop the FAA, to help us.

No one in the FAA is elected. They don't care about votes. Only congress will listen to "votes" as you put it. Contact your local rep.

I'd rather the FAA just get blindsided with a C&D out of the blue from congress. Badgering the FAA will just put them on the defensive and allow them to formulate their side of the argument to congress.

Let's be smart about this.

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12-17-2015 10:17 AM  22 months agoPost 13
EEngineer

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Since when does the FAA fund operation of airports?
You do....except if you don't pay fed income tax and your lifestyle is being funded by those that pay such taxes.....LOL

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12-18-2015 01:54 PM  22 months agoPost 14
jharkin

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Ask for an investigation to find out what caused your aircraft to crash. They are responsible for investigating all aircraft crashes under there jurisdiction, since they now want us under their jurisdiction they should get the responsibility to provide these.
Accident investigations are primarily handled by NTSB, not FAA...

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12-18-2015 03:49 PM  22 months agoPost 15
revmix

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Heck put in a report for every mid air that happens at the flying field. Ask for an investigation to find out what caused your aircraft to crash. They are responsible for investigating all aircraft crashes under there jurisdiction, since they now want us under their jurisdiction they should get the responsibility to provide these.
r/c operation manual is not by FAA, model a/c flying Safety Code is by nationwide community based clubs, so could call AMA about the crash

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