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11-21-2015 03:19 AM  24 months agoPost 1
balsapro

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I just set up the neo using a 12x.... not fun. Finally I figured out a switch combination that would work with a nitro.

Has the 2 channel mode been removed from the neo setup? Are they trying to make a nitro to run like an electric?

took me hours of messing with it to setup a nitro like they've been traditionally for years

the silverline did the nitro gov setup a lot better.

the neo should allow the use the throttle curve to control the throttle channel.

anyway is there any plans for a firmware update?

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11-21-2015 01:12 PM  24 months agoPost 2
Ronald Thomas

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Did you follow the vstabi.info instructions on setup?

The governor is made to be on, normal mode only for lift off. that prevents the dreaded normal mode inverted crash....

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11-21-2015 05:27 PM  24 months agoPost 3
jjeaster222000

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Time to pick up a new v control

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11-21-2015 07:48 PM  24 months agoPost 4
balsapro

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I read everything on vstabi's site and rr i think about the neo

most gov setups on vstabi site are for the 5.3 gov setup not the neo.

the one write up on the neo leaves a lot for interpretation.

I know the way they set it up is for the gov to be on in normal mode but then how do you tune your engine? you don't do that with the gov on.

An internal combustion engine is not consistent. You have to tune it. Maybe adjust the idle throttle in the throttle curve at the field or give it a bump up of trim to get a constant idle if an engine hasn't been started in a while.

I mean the only way to do this now, is through the pitch curve???

for example if the pitch curve is not linear like with a scale machine whats that gonig to do to the throttle curve??

the one guy on the vstabi site who did the write up on the benzine trainer actually states flip the switch and it spools up like and electric.

if I wanted and electric I would build one.

Please do a firmware up date and give us back the two channel mode

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11-21-2015 07:52 PM  24 months agoPost 5
balsapro

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also here is a pic of the neo mounted on a trex 700n. trying out a little of my 3d printing skills. its in the same place as my the silveline to save some time rewiring. The neo needed to be level.

thats also kind of issue... they should allow us to turn the main unit off and use the external sensor... even for bail out. that would really make mounting it a lot easier

I call this my V block

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11-22-2015 01:07 AM  24 months agoPost 6
Ronald Thomas

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You can tune a motor with a governor...the gov does not rigidly hold the throttle barrel in one spot. Just keep the HS low and tune. As for a change, you will have to ask at the VStabi forum but there is no need for a change...

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11-22-2015 03:08 AM  24 months agoPost 7
balsapro

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its not that you cant do it its just not ideal.

If I asked the question would it be better tune a nito engine with the gov on or off? what do you think the answer would be?

thing is I'm sure the neo's gov works great on an electric but to up sell me a nitro gov that is not a nitro gov well just a little misleading.

I just want to help. I'm sure others have the same concerns.

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11-22-2015 11:05 AM  24 months agoPost 8
Ronald Thomas

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A governor is a governor whether it is electric or nitro. They attempt to do the same thing.....keep the HS consistent during maneuvers. An electric is more responsive so the gov actually works harder.
Your flying will dictate how easy or hard a nitro motor is to tune. Either you are controlling the throttle (changes as your curve dictates) or the governor does (changes and the background curve dictates).
Now breaking a motor in....you don't want a gov but you can break a motor in in the "normal" mode now.
Are you breaking a motor in for the first few flights?

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11-22-2015 06:19 PM  24 months agoPost 9
Kevin Dalrymple

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Sorry been running the Neo one my N7 since IRCHA it it works great. Best Vbar gov I have used to date.

You can run a normal throttle cure in idle up one. There is a setting for this in the set up software. Since you are using a non Vcontrol you can adjust you throttle curve. This will allow you run the motor with out the gov and you can tune it. I run my set up as follows:

Motor run:
Normal mode is my throttle curve.
Idle 2 is 1850
Idle 3 is 1950

If I am in idle 2 or 3 and I go from motor idle to mother run the Heli spools up like and electric ( which you have to set the spool up rate.)

In normal mode you fly like normal mode.

The reason for the motor off switch and motor idle and motor run is so you can turn the auto bailout off after you land.

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11-22-2015 08:12 PM  24 months agoPost 10
balsapro

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Well that's the thing I'm not using the V control and its a real pain to use gov with my 12x.

I'm not doubting that the newer hardware and firmware make for a better flight controller but the Neo seems to be lacking some features that make a traditional nitro setup work well.

I've tried to set it up so that the throttle trim slider will shut the engine down when in normal mode.

Also needed it to work with switch glow.

5.3 did all of this well.

I have direct throttle selected for bank 1. This should let the throttle curve be active but I can only control my low throttle point with the pitch curve or in the pc software.

right now I have one TX that will work with all of my helis and other aircraft. The V control is not my solution.

Can I just roll back to 5.3 on the neo?

also will the multigov sensor handle direct 2s voltage from the Neo?

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11-22-2015 08:31 PM  24 months agoPost 11
Kevin Dalrymple

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Yes the multi gov sensor will handle the direct voltage and work with the Neo.

Weather you use Vcontrol or not had not much to do with the Neo. But it dose require you to think a little different. The functions are easier to use. You don't use your slider to kill the motor any more. Mose radios did away with the slider and made it a function of a switch.

You can Still use your 12x and the Neo and it will fly great. But you will have some teething issues until learn to set up the Neo. It requires a fresh look at the programming.

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11-24-2015 12:21 AM  24 months agoPost 12
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my neo on my gasser working flawless very nice, will trade you my silver line for your neo lol

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