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11-22-2015 02:18 AM  24 months agoPost 61
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There's a highly technical military term for this. It's a c***le j**k.

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11-22-2015 02:33 AM  24 months agoPost 62
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I wonder who the pivot man was....

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11-22-2015 03:21 AM  24 months agoPost 63
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There had to be several. The AMA was outgunned. As a hobby we got a full pants down spanking in the Supermarket. Look at the list of knuckleheads in the task force. Some of them were double and triple advocates for the same individuals that sat on the task force. IMHO, AMA should have sat back on the Congressional law passed in favor and not budged off of that. The FAA's problem isn't caused by modeling. Our safety record is sancrosanct, ironclad and above reproach. AMA should have let the other members boil in the cauldron and explain what their safety programs where going to do to make the sky's safer since it's their aircraft causing the problems not the AMA/Modeling industry that has the issues. We are not the problem!

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11-22-2015 03:30 AM  24 months agoPost 64
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I agree and hope that they leave us alone under the modernization and reform act.

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11-22-2015 08:03 PM  24 months agoPost 65
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11-23-2015 04:36 PM  24 months agoPost 66
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http://www.faa.gov/uas/publications...rt_11-21-15.pdf

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11-23-2015 04:43 PM  24 months agoPost 67
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booya
4.3.3 Penalties and Enforcement
The Task Force recommends that the FAA establish a clear and proportionate penalty framework for violations. Current registration-related penalties (perhaps exceeding $25,000) were established in order to address and deter suspected drug traffickers and tax evaders who failed to register aircraft as part of larger nefarious schemes. Any person flying an sUAS, including consumers and juveniles, may now find themselves inadvertently in violation of this new system. The Task Force recommends that the FAA expressly establish a reasonable and proportionate penalty schedule that is distinct from those relating to traditional manned aviation. To the extent the FAA does not feel it has authority to alter penalty ranges indicated by statute, the Task Force recommends a change be made to Order 2150.3B, FAA Compliance and Enforcement Program, to set out the enforcement and penalty philosophy that the FAA will pursue, including a schedule of penalties.

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11-23-2015 04:44 PM  24 months agoPost 68
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Keep in mind that document is only the task force's recommendations. They are not set in stone and can still change at the whim of the FAA.

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11-24-2015 02:42 AM  24 months agoPost 69
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Having read through the document a few times now, it becomes painfully obvious that the task force went to great lengths to establish the numerical probability of a person being injured by an "sUAS", and the formula spit out a number of 4.7 occurrences in every 100,000,000 flight hours -- or one fatality per about 21,250,000 FLIGHT hours.

Is that anywhere near being what a sane person would define as a "significant" risk? Something that really needs to be regulated at all, or require a nationwide registration program?

Odd how the initial impetus of this grand illusion was to prevent mid-air collisions between an unmanned aircraft and a larger man-carrying aircraft, bringing it down; yet the final determination is based on the probability of a 250-gram object, falling from the sky, from a 500 foot altitude, and striking an unsuspecting person on the head, and killing them (of which there is only a one in three chance of that event being fatal).

Would it not make more sense to protect the public at large simply by mandating that all persons, when outdoors, wear protective helmets.

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11-24-2015 09:03 AM  24 months agoPost 70
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Your life might be....but I'm not paying for your socialist ideology.

I suggest YOU pay for your lifestyle.

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11-24-2015 09:06 PM  24 months agoPost 71
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"Socialists" have done run the US out of money.

Don't you understand?
See, that's the thing... They don't. The libtards actually EMBRACE it. They love socialism and they're definitely "Feelin' the Bern" of the self-admitted socialist and Presidential candidate Sanders. As for former "inmate" living in CT, the ones from MA are the worst.

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11-27-2015 01:22 AM  24 months agoPost 72
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I've been thinking about this whole task force stuff and I'm struggling with the timing.

We all know what the FAA has said with regards to how fast they want to get this whole registration process rolling but it flies in the face of the normal MO for government. These sort of projects require planning, specifications, an RFQ has to be posted for the creation of the website that will be doing the registering and then the agency has to review bids that were submitted. Once the process is complete then the agency issues the contract to the low bidder meeting the spec. Privacy issues have to be addressed, as well as website security and since The Feds have such a good track record with websites I would submit that there may be some concerns.

With the timing that the FAA announced its almost as if they have had a plan in the works for a while and the task force most likely is nothing but a cover for trying to look like they care about being inclusive but not really. Typically for any project like this the FAA would let the specification for the project to a Federal site that posts an RFP/RFQ and then solicits bids for the scope of the work.

If they bypass this process they have to have justification for going outside the bid process. The timing between the task force report and implementation of the registration website will tell the tale I think. If the FAA pulls it off this year I bet it was already in the works, if the deadline slips, maybe not.

The other thing that is worrisome is when the database is created will it be subject to FOIA requests? I know what the FAA said but I also know how things change. If someone can get a list of who's who in the modeling biz imagine what could be done? Somehow Federal assurances aren't necessarily comforting.

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12-13-2015 03:20 AM  23 months agoPost 73
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Here is another update: http://www.politico.com/tipsheets/m...n-advice-211692

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