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10-22-2015 02:30 AM  26 months agoPost 1
Kevin Dalrymple

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Been thinking of picking up a 50 size nitro to fly as my main Heli My current nitro is a N7 and it flies great and I am not thinking of getting rid of it. But I been thinking the 50 might be cheaper to crash. Is this going backwards? Has anyone had the same experience and has it helped?

My big problem is time on the sticks with 2 young kids. I don't have the time to fly like before, and I won't give time up from the family for helis.

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10-22-2015 03:58 AM  26 months agoPost 2
Steve Graham

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I know this may seem flippant but if you're crashing a lot and you don't want to I'd suggest your training methodologies need re-examining.

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10-22-2015 04:04 AM  26 months agoPost 3
Ace Dude

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Sounds like a step forward to me. You know where you want to go and found a more economical way to get there.

  

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10-22-2015 04:08 AM  26 months agoPost 4
Dr.Ben

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Lord no it's not a step back. Do what you need to do to balance hobby, family, and pocketbook.

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10-22-2015 04:42 AM  26 months agoPost 5
ICUR1-2

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I suggest getting a 500 size. batteries are cheaper, smaller and quicker to charge. Blades are a lot less expensive.
It has a good presence in the air.
It's a good size for when you only have an hour here and there.

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10-22-2015 05:11 AM  26 months agoPost 6
Tyler

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ICUR1-2, 50 nitro isn't available as a 500 6s option.

I have a 50 nitro for the exact same reason, just don't buy an expensive 50.

Enjoy things that money can buy IF you don't lose the things money can't buy.

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10-22-2015 05:42 AM  26 months agoPost 7
Steve Graham

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It is not a step backwards. If my N7 and E7SE are any indication the N5 which I have flown BTW will also be a great machine. Still, you listed time and money as limiting factors affecting your participation in the hobby. You will be spending a lot of money and time to buy, build and maintain a second heli.

One of the best things I did a few years ago is purchase a TREX 700 nitro and fly it almost exclusively for several years. I learned that heli inside out, flew it on a flybar for a long time, learned collective management and everything I know about nitro tuning. I can not tell you that you won't ever crash even if you do everything right or that crashes on a 700 aren't expensive but I stand by my original statement. You already committed the resources, time and money, to build one of the best helicopters on the market. It sounds like you may have had a crash that caused you to re-evaluate the wisdom of skill development with a 700 class heli. That's not necessarily a bad thing as self evaluation is an important part of advancing in the hobby. Perhaps rather than asking questions that draw your current choice of heli into the discussion I feel it might be beneficial to ask what you learned from your previous crash/s and what you can do to avoid them in the future?

In the end you must decide for yourself.

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10-22-2015 06:39 AM  26 months agoPost 8
ICUR1-2

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Tyler

50 nitro isn't available as a 500 6s option.
It is for me as I have a 50 nitro and I don't have time to tune or hope it runs. that's for when I have a couple of hours.

For a quick fix my 500 does the job when I only have an hour

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10-22-2015 10:35 AM  26 months agoPost 9
banshee rider

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ICUR1-2

It is for me as I have a 50 nitro and I don't have time to tune or hope it runs. that's for when I have a couple of hours.
For a quick fix my 500 does the job when I only have an hour
Time to tune or hope it runs ?
When you have a couple of hours ????

You obviously don't know how to tune an engine

It shouldn't take more than 15 minutes with a BRAND NEW
right out of the box engine to tune it

A previously run engine that was properly tuned isn't
more than 3 clicks from perfect

ageing is manditory maturity is optional

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10-22-2015 10:48 AM  26 months agoPost 10
HeliHov

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Defineately not a step backwards. This hobby is very demanding in many aspects of life, including family, finances and personal time. You have to do what you have to do to make it work for you. If you feel a 50 size nitro is the way to go for you then do it!. Nothing wrong with that. That size heli is nothing but fun and it won't put you any further behind.

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10-22-2015 10:54 AM  26 months agoPost 11
Richardmid1

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A few harsh replies here which is annoying and my most hated aspect of the internet! I hope the OP doesn't take them seriously!

Crashing is part of the hobby, it happens, no getting round it. The best pilots in the world crash more than we do!

I am in the exact same boat, 2 kids AND an N7 (also 800E Pro and a 450)! I personally am thinking of stepping back to ONLY a 450! Although I do like an inverted auto and while I have done them with a 450 they are not very much fun!

60% of the time, it works every time!

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10-22-2015 11:14 AM  26 months agoPost 12
Ronald Thomas

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A slightly smaller Heli is never a step back. Maybe a FBL with rescue to help ease the cost of crashing?

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10-22-2015 12:42 PM  26 months agoPost 13
Kevin Dalrymple

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A slightly smaller Heli is never a step back. Maybe a FBL with rescue to help ease the cost of crashing?
Ron I am flying Vcontrol with rescue. Now I did just get it at IRCHA and it works great.

The main reason is not just crashing. But also one that is easier on fuel. This 50 would be cheaper to run as the parts are cheaper. Also this Heli that I have been thinking about my friend is selling pretty cheap. He had gotten out of helis so he dose not want it.

Steve I hear what you are saying, but this Heli would be one that I don't care what it looks like as I want to fly the snot out of it. if the bolts get rusty I don't care. It is for me to train on.

I picked nitro because of the hei that was offered to my and the flight times.

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10-22-2015 01:28 PM  26 months agoPost 14
ICUR1-2

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banshee rider

Time to tune or hope it runs ?
When you have a couple of hours ????
You obviously don't know how to tune an engine
You obviously don't know me
when my nitro hasn't flown in a month sometimes longer they don't always start right away nor is the needle even close.

I was merely addressing the OP's issue of time and sometimes nitro's need trouble shooting.
I have a 600N and the fuel consumption is almost half of what a 90 drinks, Same for costs
A 500 size is half the cost of a 50 size
and a 450 almost half the cost of a 500 to crash

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10-22-2015 02:28 PM  26 months agoPost 15
Kevin Dalrymple

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I have a 360 now and would like something a little bigger to practice on. I also have no problems with tuning nitro. I can get them dialed in with in a flight

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10-22-2015 02:45 PM  26 months agoPost 16
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I am just getting back into the hobby after a few long years off. I'm going back to a 500 size as that was a perfect balance of cost, ease of repair, size and general ease of use. For those of us who aren't naturally gifted pilots, I think this is a great option. Oh, and to those who suggested just "learn to fly better", you might want to check out a Tony Robbins positivity video or two.

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10-22-2015 03:01 PM  26 months agoPost 17
grim.the.grim

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The 500 is a great suggestion. I have one in my trunk that I carry everywhere. It's in a case that holds my bird, radio, and a few batteries. That way, when I do have a few minutes, I can take it out and fly. Quick, easy, no clean up, and it flys in a smaller area than a 700 size Heli. The suggestion of a 450 is also great. I have one in a case that I carry also. This is not a step back...its a step to help keep the hobby alive for you while balancing "Real life". Have fun and fly whatever makes YOU happy and whatever makes YOU comfortable.

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10-22-2015 03:07 PM  26 months agoPost 18
Heli_Splatter

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why not just more time on the sim to stay current? You can get a lot more practice on the sim per hour than flying in the wild.

I do not accept that crashes are inevitable..

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10-22-2015 03:43 PM  26 months agoPost 19
Ronald Thomas

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If it is man made, eventually it will break

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10-22-2015 05:30 PM  26 months agoPost 20
ICUR1-2

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Sim time is certainly a great idea for when you got time and the weather sucks or it's dark. But it's no replacement for real time

Accepting that crashes are inevitable helps me to relax and enjoy the Hobby.
Having owned a model that was unreliable helped me to realize this.
Even the Pros crash and they still have fun

To me stepping backward would be taking a break for an extended period of time or quitting all together.

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