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10-21-2015 01:31 AM  26 months agoPost 81
gmcullan

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I think he's related to Esco

Gerry Cullan,
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10-21-2015 01:49 AM  26 months agoPost 82
Mark Ryder

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The guy just locked out is an aliases of another in this topic.

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10-21-2015 01:50 AM  26 months agoPost 83
TMoore

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We may be looking at this registration thing all wrong. This may well be an opportunity to thin the herd. Maybe the Feds should start up mandatory training schools, create stringent requirements for pilot proficiency and testing on top of stiff fees to cover the cost of testing and licensing. Of course, model aviation would get a complete pass because we fly strictly LOS. Hmmmm, I wonder. Furthermore, before you could complete the purchase of your drone the licensing would have to be a part of the total purchase experience. I'm liking this. All drones going forward would be subject to........

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10-21-2015 01:56 AM  26 months agoPost 84
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I don't see the DOT, the FAA and the NHTSA trying to regulate the internet
There is no hope for the analogy impaired.

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10-21-2015 01:59 AM  26 months agoPost 85
sideng

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I think the real reason for all this registration stuff is that the feds are TERRIFIED that the public will now be able to spy on THEM. . .

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10-21-2015 02:06 AM  26 months agoPost 86
TMoore

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There is no hope for the analogy impaired.
Maybe better analogies would help.

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10-21-2015 02:34 AM  26 months agoPost 87
Life_Nerd

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OK. I'll try one more analogy.

Blaming DJI for the wreckless use of mulitrotors is like blaming Apple for the wreckless use of of smartphones (example: texting and driving). Yes, texting and driving has been made illegal in many states and the authority is NOT the DOT or FAA.

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10-21-2015 02:52 AM  26 months agoPost 88
TMoore

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OK. I'll try one more analogy.
Blaming DJI for the wreckless use of mulitrotors is like blaming Apple for the wreckless use of of smartphones (example: texting and driving). Yes, texting and driving has been made illegal in many states and the authority is NOT the DOT or FAA.
I don't have a problem with DJI selling multirotors as long as they aren't stabilized and do require some pilot skills to fly. Case in point:

An F550 with a Naza has to be put together, ESC's soldered, radio setup, GPS calibrated and antennal location set into memory as part of the setup. IOW effort is required to setup the radio, the flight controller and you need to be able to fly it as part of the setup procedure. I have no problem with that type of machine but when you sell it ready to fly and any idiot can fly it this is a problem for every legitimate modeler that takes responsibility for flying safe.

In short, I'm thinking that maybe this registration thing is a good thing, maybe it ought to become so onerous that no one can buy a DJI Phantom unless they pony up some serious coin. Maybe the FAA, the DOT and NHTSA makes it so expensive that no one buys them. That's fine with me. Maybe this is the outcome of all these Drone sales. License them out of existence.

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10-21-2015 02:58 AM  26 months agoPost 89
jbjones

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Life_Nerd: OK. I'll try one more analogy.
I don't think you need another. We all understood; I think you're being trolled.

He blames DJI for this mess. But yet, in regard to all of the heli shops closing he says that they had no choice. They have to to "survive".
TMoore:What choice do they have? If a model shop has to survive they have to sell what they can sell. Same goes for the manufacturers. What choice do they have? It didn't have to be this way but it is.
So, DJI doesn't get the opportunity to make a buck and "survive". They're just plain evil. Like Thunder Tiger was in the late 90s with that damned cheap plastic helicopter!

This thread has turned from interesting, to pitiful.

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10-21-2015 03:00 AM  26 months agoPost 90
revmix

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analogy
registering a machine does not violate anyone's civil right or privacy

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10-21-2015 03:04 AM  26 months agoPost 91
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I'm torn on the registration topic. Like many here, I fly full scale. I haven't given much thought regarding a mid-air with a multirotor. In reality, I've had quite a few close calls with birds and have yet to see a multirotor.

Like you say, government regulation may be necessary but I doubt registration will make a dent. Mischievous multirotor pilots will likely thumb their nose at putting a number on their craft.

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10-21-2015 03:09 AM  26 months agoPost 92
TMoore

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He blames DJI for this mess. But yet, in regard to all of the heli shops closing he says that they had no choice. They have to to "survive".

TMoore:What choice do they have? If a model shop has to survive they have to sell what they can sell. Same goes for the manufacturers. What choice do they have? It didn't have to be this way but it is.
So, DJI doesn't get the opportunity to make a buck and "survive". They're just plain evil. Like Thunder Tiger was in the late 90s with that damned cheap plastic helicopter!
This thread has turned from interesting, to pitiful.
If you read my post which you quoted and incorrectly paraphrased I said: "What choice do they have? If a model shop has to survive they have to sell what they can sell. Same goes for the manufacturers. What choice do they have? It didn't have to be this way but it is.

What I wrote is not what you said. You're twisting it to suit your narrative.

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10-21-2015 03:12 AM  26 months agoPost 93
revmix

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registration topic
that's just it; AMA policy is to place the r/c player's info on the model aircraft or drone,
so what's the big deal registering with the aviation agency? [if operating outside of designated flying field]
Conventional r/c stuff should not be included, maybe just the advanced system

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10-21-2015 03:17 AM  26 months agoPost 94
TMoore

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I'm torn on the registration topic. Like many here, I fly full scale. I haven't given much thought regarding a mid-air with a multirotor. In reality, I've had quite a few close calls with birds and have yet to see a multirotor.
Like you say, government regulation may be necessary but I doubt registration will make a dent. Mischievous multirotor pilots will likely thumb their nose at putting a number on their craft.
It's totally unfeasible at the ground level. They don't have the man power to do it at the selling point either but where they can stop it is at the point of manufacture and they can go directly after each manufacturer to put software in place that will require a release code to be input to release the machine to fly and the only way that release code can be obtained is through registration, testing and massive fees to pay for it. All this stuff comes from China and that's the easy part for the Feds. That makes it easy for the Feds to implement. I'm not sure they are smart enough to figure this out. We'll see.

OTOH, it opens up an incredible Black Market opportunity that the Feds will never be able to stop..

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10-21-2015 04:17 AM  26 months agoPost 95
drdot

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FWiw...

I Want to make t-shirts that say" No camera? No goggles? No drone."

John.

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10-21-2015 04:20 AM  26 months agoPost 96
revmix

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" No camera? No goggles? No drone."
no-nonsense

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10-21-2015 11:37 AM  26 months agoPost 97
elmobad

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" No camera? No goggles? No drone."
+1
The R/C community needs to start that campaign!
" No camera? No goggles? No drone."

I don't know if it has been mentioned, but arent AMA members technical already registered, I mean if we follow the direction of the AMA we post our info on our models.

All the gooberment is creating is a underground "DRONE" movent. Don't they learn from there previous mistakes from History prohibition for example.

GOT FBL?

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10-21-2015 12:40 PM  26 months agoPost 98
Heli_Splatter

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boy... what a mouth surfer guy has... once I said Drone Camps video was worthless, it did not add anything to the discussion.. SurferGuy started PM'ing me with foul language...

So I banned him from the thread, so he reappeared as another alias. I banned that too! If you can argue without swearing, you are welcome to participate. We may not agree, but we can state our point of view.

Hey, at least the board is alive again. It has always been the planks and rotors blaming FPV and Multis for everything bad. Well the government is not going to distinguish among all the aircraft. They are going to register all of them. Even the tiny ProtoXs can fly high enough to strike a GA plane.

We all need to respect the airspace. There is no need to fly in restricted airspace and newcomers need to learn and follow the rules. Most of all, the rules need to be finished and published so that we can all follow them. Civil fines and seizure needs to happen when a numskull cannot adhere to the regulations.

I was building and flying multi-rotors before it was cool, and I also like chili. I get more F(fart)/$ with baked beans. My farts are new, not old farts.

If I can afford it, I will be buying a autonomous car. Post Haste.
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10-21-2015 01:03 PM  26 months agoPost 99
TheMainShaft

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Drone Registration

I don't see how registration will help at all. During the video they kept saying "registration will help us identify the offenders". Can you really put a large enough license plate on a drone that you could read it from 200 feet away, like in a close call situation ?

I think most drone owners (new or old) have enough common sense not to fly around airports. The thrill seekers, will do it anyway, and they won't be flying a registered drone.

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10-21-2015 01:55 PM  26 months agoPost 100
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What about all the racing quads?

They are popping up everywhere but, they are not created to pose a treat as long as people use them for what they are intended.

Look here check it out!

https://rc.runryder.com/helicopter/t798055p1/

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