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10-20-2015 06:37 PM  26 months agoPost 41
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10-20-2015 06:43 PM  26 months agoPost 42
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Wow
word of wisdom

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10-20-2015 06:46 PM  26 months agoPost 43
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10-20-2015 06:48 PM  26 months agoPost 44
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yah, sure everyone but not acting up

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10-20-2015 06:49 PM  26 months agoPost 45
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10-20-2015 06:51 PM  26 months agoPost 46
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I long for the days when it took more than just a fat wallet to get into the air. It's unlikely we would be having this discussion if this were still the case. "Instant Gratification" It's a great thing, ain't it? We won't even recognize this hobby when they're all done! The AMA is all about 'education'. RIGHT!

There, their and they're. It's really that simple.

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10-20-2015 06:52 PM  26 months agoPost 47
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?
put it 'nicely'!

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10-20-2015 06:54 PM  26 months agoPost 48
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10-20-2015 06:55 PM  26 months agoPost 49
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the faa.gov does the same professionally, not like AMA 'acting up' for no reason,
bottom line, 'education' goes only so far as human behavior, can't beat the law system

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10-20-2015 08:54 PM  26 months agoPost 50
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10-20-2015 09:11 PM  26 months agoPost 51
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I have to say. We need to curb the "secret boys club"
mentality when it comes to our hobby.
Welcome the new guys at the field and show them what it's all about.
It's true some guys just don't get it. But many do.
I was taught by someone who took some time to teach me
common sense training with nitro motors, balsa, and how to lay monokote.
I'm returning the favor to new guys now. Someone took their time to teach me how to fly nitro trainers at 12 years old. Something I will never forget. My friend is passed away now due to a car wreck on a surf trip in 1989. He passed at 27 years old. - He was as good as gold, and loved aviation. And it was really expensive back then so he taught me on an Eazy-Bee with a Cox .049 to get started.
It's guys like that at the field who end up with their names on the field name. Joe Nall is a prime example of a person who inspired thousands into aviation and his legacy lives on. Positive education of others and the youth are important to our ever expanding hobby.
I would agree with you, if you were right. 10 years ago you would have been right but Youtube and instant fame has taken the innocence from the hobby. DJI and others have created a snowball that can't be stopped. Folks that want to fly don't seek out the AMA and join their local club for the camaraderie and socializing that goes with modeling. A lot of these folks are thrill seekers and don't recognize the responsibility to others that is necessary for the hobby to grow and progress. revmix tends to be curt to a fault but he's right for the most part while being snide at the same time he is espousing his POV. I'm not taking up for him. We have all seen this hobby change, it's not just about passing on what we know. Most folks are looking for instant gratification and when it doesn't happen their short attention span takes them somewhere else.

Registration of so called Drones is no different than building a database of gun owners with universal background checks. The Feds don't have the man power and folks won't pay the money to register their machines. Let's sit back and watch to see how well it works. I don't fly Drones.....I'm a modeler.

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10-20-2015 09:15 PM  26 months agoPost 52
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How can you keep blaming DJI? How are they expected to control the idiots? They have actually created no-fly zones in their firmware which IMO is too preventative.

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10-20-2015 09:29 PM  26 months agoPost 53
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How can you keep blaming DJI? How are they expected to control the idiots? They have actually created no-fly zones in their firmware which IMO is too preventative.
Easy, by creating a model that is stabilized and requires ZERO piloting skill they have single handedly unleashed a barrage of idiots on to the landscape that is beyond any one agency to control and has jeopardized our hobby. Look at it like this. The hobby, Pre-Phantom had a self cleansing effect. Modelers had to put this stuff together, had to learn to fly the equipment and needed some skill to keep from going broke in the process, IOW they had to have some reasonable smarts about themselves to progress, grow in the hobby and not go broke at the same time. Model helicopters required persistence and time to become proficient in their operation and make progress.

When DJI first came out with the Flamewheels and Naza's you had to put them together which required some skill and persistence. When the Phantom came out, that one big step was eliminated which invited exactly what we have now.

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10-20-2015 09:40 PM  26 months agoPost 54
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10-20-2015 09:48 PM  26 months agoPost 55
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10-20-2015 10:21 PM  26 months agoPost 56
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10-20-2015 10:37 PM  26 months agoPost 57
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I do agree multi-rotors like the flame wheel took some time to build, and so does ARF balsa models. However, this hobby has grown past that. I keep seeing you guys talk about how things used to be. It's not like that anymore so we have to deal with the way it is now.
We're all painfully aware of how the hobby is right now. Besides the F550 that I still own, I have flown the Align M690 and the Phantom III's as much as I want to and while I like they way they fly it's till not flying like LOS is.
It's not going to go back to the way it used to be 10 years ago. The genie is out of the bottle. Now we have to help people and stay proactive. The Know Before You Fly program is one way they are trying to educate a "consumer market" getting into R/C. Even if you educate one person at a time it's worth the time spent with that person.
In case you haven't noticed a lot of people can't be reasoned with. They don't understand the consequences of their actions. The Know before you fly program sounds good in theory but you're talking about trying to get folks to a website, read the bullet points and making them understand what their actions can result in. Remember this; a lot of folks that are flying now can't be bothered to read instructions, don't understand their own radios and are puzzled by why they can't make a simple BNF Blade heli work.
We have to live in the present guys.
And have any of you noticed over the past 3 years that all of the hardcore RC heli shops have started advertising mainly multi-rotors? If you want to blame someone you might blame the people you buy your helis from. They are the main dealers moving all of these units to people's front doors. Including Amain Hobbies, HeliDirect, and all the big shops that once dominated the single rotor market.
And on the manufacturers side its not just DJI. It's Century, Align, HeliMax, Hi-Tec, Blade, Scorpion, and loads of other heli companies who are focusing manufacturing of multi-rotors now. It's the entire industry gentlemen.
What choice do they have? If a model shop has to survive they have to sell what they can sell. Same goes for the manufacturers. What choice do they have? It didn't have to be this way but it is.

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10-20-2015 10:40 PM  26 months agoPost 58
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Easy, by creating a model that is stabilized and requires ZERO piloting skill they have single handedly unleashed a barrage of idiots on to the landscape that is beyond any one agency to control and has jeopardized our hobby... etc.
Same old tired argument could be said for a number of things that make our lives easier. Grumpy old fart opinions like when automatic transmissions in automobiles became popular. You can just point the car and step on the gas - creates wreckless drivers..

It's too easy to put a round in a gun, and shoot someone, today - creates wreckless gun owners. Back in the old day we had to measure then place the powder down the barrel, after which we add the ball. We were going to make that shot count.

Spare me. Self driving cars are coming fast.

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10-20-2015 10:43 PM  26 months agoPost 59
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I agree Life Nerd. These guys sound like a bunch of old cranky dudes
smelling each others farts and loving it.

Move on with new technologies or get left behind in your cave.

Nothing wrong with the guy video saying "Just Fly" at the end.
That's what I intend to do! Nice Work!

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10-20-2015 10:57 PM  26 months agoPost 60
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I agree Life Nerd. These guys sound like a bunch of old cranky dudes
smelling each others farts and loving it.

Move on with new technologies or get left behind in your cave.

Nothing wrong with the guy video saying "Just Fly" at the end.
That's what I intend to do! Nice Work!
Hey Bieber, take another selfie of your junk and go back to your FB / Instagram / Snapchat / twitter self absorption and leave it to the adults to clean up the mess your make.

BTW: Get Off My Lawn.

Believe 1/2 of what you see and none of what you hear.
Fake News will be the downfall of our Republic!

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