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10-03-2015 08:43 PM  26 months agoPost 21
revmix

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Wild West history

can't change the mentality overnight
“And when the mood strikes, and as long as we’re tossing around brand names, I sling an AR, Tek-9 or AK over my shoulder, or holster a Glock 21 (not 22), or one of my other handguns, like the Sig Sauer P226, and walk out the door,” Harper bragged.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/mo...3vsq?li=AAa0dzB

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10-03-2015 10:21 PM  26 months agoPost 22
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If i recall corectly there was an attempt to have owners register thier weapons in Conneticut a few years back.... It was estimated that fewer than 10% complied.

Most gun owners and even many non gun owners view the right to uninfringed access as a an extreemly important right. It esentially serves to form the 4rth branch of government, the failsafe in the event that government goes bad. Governments can and do go bad.

We are citizens, not subjects, and no weepy hypocritical panzy monster who himself has murdered thousands of women and children and supports abortion of millions more is going to change that.

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10-03-2015 10:32 PM  26 months agoPost 23
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If this were really about reducing gun crime, they'd be after handguns. But instead they want the AR-15's. Ask yourself why.

Also, if this were really about saving lives, they'd prosecute people attempting to purchase guns illegally. But they don't. Fewer than 1% of failed NCIS checks are even prosecuted. And straw purchasers run rampant. Ask yourself why? A policy to induce failure?

This isn't about lives.

Why no press meetings after weekends in Chicago or Detroit claim just as many lives? Why the laserlike focus on "mass shootings" which frankly, aren't an appreciable amount of deaths by guns. I'm serious. If you look at statistics, as scary as a "mass shooter" is, their numbers don't come close to singular homicides or gang related homicides.

I'm so glad they are starting to mention Australia. It just goes to show you that their agenda is an unlimited one. They played as though they just want this or that "limited" gun control. But we can see that as long as people die from guns, they will have no intention of stopping until they get them all. They finally play their hand and we can see they are for total confiscation, just like we said they were all along and they'd coyly deny. I'm glad they are at least out of the shadows.

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10-03-2015 10:50 PM  26 months agoPost 24
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This isn't about lives.
100% correct.

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10-03-2015 11:05 PM  26 months agoPost 25
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100%
eventually there will be control [unintelligent & sicko persons can't have weapons, regardless of the Constitution]

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10-03-2015 11:14 PM  26 months agoPost 26
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unintelligent & sicko persons can't have weapons, regardless of the Constitution
I'm all for that - but consider how you will properly screen people for mental capacity to own firearms. I'm sure the net cast will be a lot bigger than necessary.

Then, when these freakazoids start using automobiles or bombs, what then?

We aren't getting to the core of the issue. There are common threads that are being ignored.

Start by getting rid of danged gun free zones. There is zero evidence that evildoers will be dissuaded by the little signs. All it does is disarm the law abiding, which is removing their natural right to self defense. The folks that won't carry in a gun free zone are the exact types YOU WANT carrying in a gun free zone!! So get rid of these things.

Then, start enforcing the laws we have now, see what happens, then consider new regulation. Until then, it's totally irresponsible to say the law doesn't work when it isn't enforced. In fact, the government is the one that CAN enforce the law but doesn't. Some of this blood is on their hands.

Plus, the right to self defense is a natural right. No one grants it. Just sad we can't see that.

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10-03-2015 11:26 PM  26 months agoPost 27
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simple

for gun license must have IQ test & mental evaluation by qualified professionals

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10-03-2015 11:29 PM  26 months agoPost 28
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Ah yes, and this system is not ripe for abuse at all, now is it?

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10-03-2015 11:33 PM  26 months agoPost 29
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Ah yes
yah, but lessens the possibility for the innocent to get hurt/executed, nothing is bulletproof,
gun free zones should have armed guards to shoot to kill on the spot any intruder [inhuman anyway & they commit suicide after the massacre so no loss for society]

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10-04-2015 12:07 AM  26 months agoPost 30
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Perhaps we can get the IRS to administrate the test?

Question 1. Are you a conservative ?
If yes, not aprooved.

See how easy that is?

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10-04-2015 12:12 AM  26 months agoPost 31
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See how easy that is?
no political identity necessary [just like for any license]

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10-04-2015 01:27 AM  26 months agoPost 32
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Perhaps we can get the IRS to administrate the test?
Question 1. Are you a conservative ?
If yes, not aprooved.
See how easy that is?
Like I said. Ripe for abuse.

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10-04-2015 03:13 AM  26 months agoPost 33
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14 people shot in 15 hours in Chicago.
That's a new record.
Nice going Chicago.
That's not news because it's blacks killing blacks in a lot of cases.

This is a case of black (actually mixed) killing whites.

Here's some myspace stuff about him:

Watch at YouTube

Only Two Myspace Friends, One Who Praises Islamic Terrorists, Urges Killing Of Jews-Update: Admired Black Gay Killer Who Shot Journalists On Live T.V.

http://www.weaselzippers.us/235741-...-harper-mercer/

90% of life is "showing up"

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10-04-2015 05:18 AM  26 months agoPost 34
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it's blacks killing blacks in a lot of cases.
a black might kill another black true ,but they don't kill by the dozen like most Americans do. in schools and at the work place.

Insha Allah made in america

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10-04-2015 05:24 AM  26 months agoPost 35
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Mass shooters have no race. This isn't a race thing. We've had white shooters, black shooters (the Navy yard guy) and now we've got mixed race shooters. This guy was mixed race. I suppose the whites will blame his black half and the blacks will blame his white half, but they are both way off and missing the mark.

This is not a color thing. It's a mental health issue, and possibly an idealogical issue.

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10-04-2015 05:33 AM  26 months agoPost 36
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I didn't mean to start a black/white who kills who type of thing.

I was aiming at how the media treats killing.

A bunch of weekend murders in Chicago is a ho-hum in the news with no protests, or riots, or outrage.

The killing of a black man by a white cop is purposely fanned by MSM, even though they know this may lead to riots and more deaths.

I claim the MSM is guilty of yelling fire in a theater when they do this.

90% of life is "showing up"

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10-04-2015 05:38 AM  26 months agoPost 37
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Aaron29

This is not a color thing. It's a mental health issue, and possibly an idealogical issue.
I suspect mental health issues are not handled well in this country. I may be wrong. It just seems many homeless people have major mental issues. And some can be dangerous.

90% of life is "showing up"

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10-04-2015 05:46 AM  26 months agoPost 38
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A sad, stark contrast between the lack of coverage and shock over inner city killings, placed aside the massive media frenzy when violence hits white middle class suburbia...that is about as racist as an issue can get. What, media? Somehow, young inner city black men losing their lives isn't news worthy? I cannot think of anything more racist than to ignore one set of violence and then turn around and have all sorts of focus when white suburbia is hit by it.

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10-04-2015 10:37 AM  26 months agoPost 39
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logical

Like I said. Ripe for abuse.
then nothing to be done, just waiting for the next slaughter & the ones after

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10-04-2015 02:37 PM  26 months agoPost 40
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nothing to be done, just waiting for the next slaughter & the ones after
See, this is why I'm starting to give up debating with liberals. Who here said do nothing? The proposals given included start enforcing the gun laws already on the books, pursue prosecution of straw purchasers and failed NCIS checks, allow carry everywhere in accordance with the 2nd Amendment, get rid of gun free zones in accordance with the same, and reopen mental institutions.

There were PLENTY of options proposed, but you ignored them all and went straight to "Oh well, conservatives don't care, and want to do nothing" simply because your "issuing agency" proposal idea was rejected on infringement grounds.

So it's your way or the highway.

Liberals. Truly playing tennis without a net.

It really is getting to the point where if no reasonable dialogue can be had, why bother engaging in it? I feel stupid even responding, as though by some miracle it'll change a liberal's mind. Kick me. LOL

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