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07-17-2015 06:16 PM  23 months agoPost 1
dschertz

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Jackson, MI

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Can I use my heli X9303 for FPV/quads or do I need to get a different radio? Seems to me it should work, but I know little of the "drone" world and this FPV seems to interest me. Updated ( a little), I see it depends on the quad and sometimes an adapter is necessary or a different receiver for cppm.........

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07-18-2015 04:47 AM  23 months agoPost 2
TomC

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You should be fine with most (all that I know of) multi rotors. Generally you just use your tx in air mode and the mixing is taken care of by the muti-rotor's flight controller that you program through your pc.

If you end up with a more complex unit with gps and return to home functions (incl failsafe) then you need to make sure you have an Rx that can do a pre-set failsafe (eg. ar8000 or any of the spectrum compatible Orange +6ch Rx's).

Imho you should do a bit more research yourself and try to find some local help if possible. Also, there are a few other forums that have a lot more multirotor and fpv info out there. Just do a bit of goggling.

Warning, FPV is VERY addictive. I'm FPV'ing quads and planes a lot now and my poor heli's are getting kinda lonely, lol! However, hopefully not too long before a give one of these a go with FPV.

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07-18-2015 06:34 AM  23 months agoPost 3
billybob

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I was using a DX7 for my FPV quads but as I have gotten more involved with it(FPV very addictive, I went to the Taranis radio which is really meant for FPV. I had issues with spektrum as others have to, its great for helis, but FPV is a different animal.
Everything you ever wanted to know about FPV can be found here: http://fpvlab.com/forums/.

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07-18-2015 06:56 AM  23 months agoPost 4
TomC

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I don't agree with all that billy. Lots of guys fpv'ing with Spektrum (and Jr, futaba, hitec) without problems. Because of the nature of forums you only tend to hear about ones that had problems imho.

Main problem you would have found out with your old dx7 is the lack of 3-way switches and the ability to associate diff channels with it. I believe the x9303 is a lot more capable.

Taramis works fine as well. Very nice Tx for the price.

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TomC

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07-18-2015 07:10 AM  23 months agoPost 5
billybob

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Futaba is also a good choice as it frequency hops as does the Taranis. I have flown JR and Spektrum for many years with zero issues, but when I started FPV and getting far out and flying over, under and around all sorts of things, I had some questionable moments with my Spektrum equipment. You can certainly use Spektrum and JR for FPV as many do, but have seen for myself and others that the frequency hopping of Futaba and Taranis(and range) seems to be more reliable. As long as you stay LOS and don't go to far most stuff will work fine. I still use my DX7 for my heli stuff and love it.

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07-18-2015 07:23 AM  23 months agoPost 6
AWittleWabbit

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Jr dmss and Spektrum dsmx frequency hop, the older JR/Spektrum dsm2 does not.

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07-18-2015 11:40 AM  23 months agoPost 7
dschertz

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I was looking at the new Immersion that is coming out in August and it said it didn't support dsm, dsm2, dsmx and that you would either need to get the spectrum conversion cable, orange receiver from hobby king or lemon receiver. http://www.immersionrc.com/fpv-prod...ex-racing-quad/
Any thoughts on this one?

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07-18-2015 01:22 PM  23 months agoPost 8
TomC

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Just a function of the flight controller they are using in their new 250 Vortex racing quad and an adapter will soon be available. Probably not the kind of quad you want to start off with for fpv imho.

If I were you I'd look at the larger (450 sized) HK Venture FPV Deluxe. Comes with everything you need to start fpv'ing, including gps and return to home feature. Just need to add your Rx,battery, and fpv goggles/monitor. I have one and I love it. On sale this week at HK for $274, including shipping. Bargain imho.

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07-18-2015 02:01 PM  23 months agoPost 9
dschertz

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What is the disadvantage to start with this one? Also, would it benefit me if I upgraded to the new DMSS radio for this? (don't really want to buy a new radio though.)

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07-18-2015 04:21 PM  23 months agoPost 10
billybob

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I think all of this comes down to what it is that you want to do with FPV. For me, I race my Quads, you mentioned the Vortex, I have a Vortex and absolutely LOVE it. It is a racing quad and designed for that purpose, however it has fifteen pro-tunes in it so you can fly it docile or aggressive(3s - 4s). The only thing I did to my Vortex was go from the 2300KV motors to the Cobra 1960KV with the 5045 Bull nose props, this takes the Vortex from awesome to insanely awesome. The intergrated OSD with Cleanflight is really nice...no laptop required, can all be tuned from goggles or moniter. Its high quality and tough, there's a reason why its constantly on back order or preorder status. Once again it really all comes down what your wanting to do, if your not racing then you have lots of choices and there are many good quads in different sizes. I would go to the FPVlab forums as there are tons of great info and videos.

As far as receivers go, I would stay far away from the orange receiver, lots of documented problems. I was using a Lemon rx with my DX7 before going with Taranis. The Vortex supports Spektrum but you will need a decoder cable which I don't think is available yet(not 100% sure on that).
Jr dmss and Spektrum dsmx frequency hop, the older JR/Spektrum dsm2 does not.
Yes, you are correct, but have seen some issues in the area where I fly with DSMX also..could just be my area as I tend to fly of cliff sides and hilly areas when not racing, so signal blocking could be an issue.

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07-18-2015 10:22 PM  23 months agoPost 11
TomC

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Like Billy says, it really depends what you want to do with FPV. I like to race my quads around a bit but am not really into quad racing. I prefer 'cruising' fpv where you go out for a nice long joy flight (usually ~ max 400-600m distance away). When you do this you really need a flight controller with gps and return to home (rtl) functions imho.

Also, the larger 450 sized quads will allow you to carry a bit more payload (eg for larger cameras) than the smaller 250 sized racers.

The Vortex does not have gps/rth, although they do say that there may be an interface to allow you to do this in the future. For 250 quad racing it does not get much better than the Vortex though imho.

The HK Quanum FPV Venture Deluxe (just google this and see for yourself) has all this already and is about 1/2 the cost of the Vortex. This is a good beginner fpv platform and it has worked very well for me. I actually have an old Orange 7ch dsm2 rx with an Orange sat on it and it works great btw. You would not have any problems using your existing radio with this imho.

Anyway, do yourself a favour and research all this a lot more. Also, try to find some local fpv flyers to get some first-hand info. Don't think I can add anything more to your initial query for now. Good luck and have fun.

Cheers,
TomC

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