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06-28-2015 07:44 AM  35 months agoPost 81
EEngineer

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Happy 4th of July to everyone.

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06-28-2015 11:45 AM  35 months agoPost 82
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Yeah the UK/Eurozone pushed for this and ended up with a VAT ON TOP of the other taxing. Yay!
Hence my comment that you would need a constitutional amendment to end income tax. Read the book by Neal Boortz, it's covered there.
It's the book that convinced me that it would work. Think about it... nobody could escape "paying their fair share". End of the IRS, April 15th becomes just another day.....

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06-28-2015 12:19 PM  35 months agoPost 83
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Borrowing from the POTUS's Wildebeest Wife: For the first time in my life, I am truly ashamed of my country. I can say that with all honesty, and yes, it does place a burden on my soul and heart. It hurts. I served for 21 years because I believed in my country, it sure the hell wasn't for the pay or retirement.

Phrases like:

“In God We Trust”

"I pledge Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible,with Liberty and Justice for all."

I, [name], do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God."

"Semper Fi and Ductus Exemplo"

Just words, just words. Meaningless now.

Although I am vehemently against same sex marriage, same sex adoption, on and on, I don't care what 2 adults do BEHIND closed doors. But this just like the rest of this thing Americans call their President, has brought this country closer to our own destruction then anyone else ever has. The list is long an painful, but this final action was just the icing on the cake.

From this point forward, all I care about, truly care about is just taking care of my family and raising my girls the best I can. I guess it has best been said like this by by a friend of mine: 'I just put away another case of 5.56'.

This was one of the final lines that should not have EVER been crossed. Now it's too late.

Am I over reacting? Nope, because I can read the writing on the walls and I know what is coming next. God HELP us all.

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06-28-2015 01:30 PM  35 months agoPost 84
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I gotta say something completely off topic.

Thank You, Sir, for serving . You are not forgotten.

Carry on.....

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06-28-2015 01:32 PM  35 months agoPost 85
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I feel your pain sig.

I am just thankful I am in my retirement and not young enough to face what's coming for the younger ones. The American dream is truly dead or at the least nowhere near what it was in my younger years.

Best if luck to you and yours.

Liberty once lost, is lost forever.

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06-28-2015 02:11 PM  35 months agoPost 86
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Oh boy

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06-28-2015 04:40 PM  35 months agoPost 87
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Well you all better hide your kids , the dog, the cat and all the rest of your animals as they are next of the list.
As others here agree if the government would had just allowed civil unions to exist for this minute number of people that want to live in this self decivied lifestyle,it would have overwhelming support by the general people. But that has never been what it's all about. If you can not see or understand that your head is more then buried in the sand.

Marriage has ALWAYS been a creation of a religious nature and was created by GOD , not the government.
One thing for sure is that GOD is in control and the day of reckoning is getting closer every day.
Are you ready?
Ready or not the day will come and there will be no Supreme Court of the USA reprieve you.

I got my popcorn cooking and my easy chair warmed up to watch the carnage continue.

Have a nice day All!

You cannot legalize morality. It's internal not external. You either have it or you don't.

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06-28-2015 07:23 PM  35 months agoPost 88
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Didn't take long

allenbwest.com/2015/06/that-was-fast-yesterday-it-was-gay-marriage-now-look-who-wants-equal-rights/

Add the http // to this

You cannot legalize morality. It's internal not external. You either have it or you don't.

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06-28-2015 07:31 PM  35 months agoPost 89
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RIGHT ON THE MONEY THOMAS. It's NEVER been about marriage per se.

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06-28-2015 07:52 PM  35 months agoPost 90
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Now NAMBLA will have a field day . Thank heavens I am not a youngster anymore, to endure this cr**....

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06-28-2015 08:00 PM  35 months agoPost 91
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They will push and push until they get everything.

Once morality is defined as whatever you personally think is right, this is the result.

How can a society function when there are different beliefs about right and wrong?

It can't.

Eventually one segment will push their morality onto the entire society. It'll be might makes right. There's an argument that this happened with Christianity through the Catholic church. But I'd argue that a little forced morality might be better than what's coming.

Kids, dogs, everything will be on the list of things pursued. BECAUSE THERE IS NO LONGER ANY BASIS FOR MORALITY. There are kids who want to have sex with adults and vice versa. Pretty soon it'll be "underage rights" being fought for. Adults will demand rights "for the sake of the kids who have no voice". They'll demand the age of consent to be reduced to 12. And they'll have PLENTY of precedence. We've tried kids as adults for murder. Now they'll want the right of consent. And in a way, IF YOU ABANDON ALL FOUNDATIONS OF MORALITY, this is the way it can go.

And before anyone says "you're just using the domino effect fallacy."

Dude, in the past, man-boy adult child love relationships were the NORM in many a society. I can only imagine Sodom-Gomorrah. But one needn't even go there. Greece had it. TONS of examples of manboy lovin'.

We now LAUGH when we hear that God had to tell the Levites not to hump their moms. Or aunt's. Or animals. WHY DO YOU THINK THEY HAD TO BE TOLD THAT!? Truth is, without the word, this is what was going on!

Without God. Pedophilia. Bestiality. This stuff is back on the possibility list. Maybe not now, but soon. We only don't allow humping of animals because the current spirit of our time is still turned off by the idea, and because of the moral momentum of what was. It doesn't leave all at once. It leaves in stages. Morality without a rock moves with the waves. What you find deplorable will be accepted.

They'll fight for their rights and society will resist for a while, but they won't resist forever. Because we've LOST our foundation of morality. Now it's just whatever morality of the times.

There were ancient societies that sacrificed human beings to gods. ROME ITSELF HAD THE GLADIATORS. People were entertained by this. I bet they never thought how immoral it was. There are some SICK desires that people have. That have all been crushed by His heel for sometime. But our defiance will remove His heel, as well as His protection.

Rough times ahead. And not cuz of what's happening behind the doors of two gay men. That's not the point. The point is, the moral compass has been shattered.

It all happened about fifty years ago. We gave up God. First it was "Free Love." But it'll go well beyond that. The bus fell off the cliff in the 1960's. We've been watching it freefall ever since. As with all freefalls, they accelerate until terminal velocity or the ground is reached. Either way, the ground is there.

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06-28-2015 08:08 PM  35 months agoPost 92
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people are already writing about it and proposing just that.
Underage sex, bestiality, polygamy.... it's all pretty much an open game now. The precedent has just been set.

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06-28-2015 09:15 PM  35 months agoPost 93
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Well said Aaron! My kids are all grown and adults but my grandchildren will suffer the most from this abomination.

You cannot legalize morality. It's internal not external. You either have it or you don't.

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06-28-2015 11:07 PM  35 months agoPost 94
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Please explain exactly how a gay couple getting married has any impact on you?

Res ipsa loquitur.

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06-28-2015 11:20 PM  35 months agoPost 95
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"A gay couple getting married" has absolutely NO impact.

A society turning against God does.

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06-29-2015 12:40 AM  35 months agoPost 96
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A society turning against God does.
And there it is.
If you guys actually believe in the freedom you spout off about, what gives you any right to force your view on God an anyone else?

Our founding fathers created this country as a haven for people to follow whatever religious belief they chose - or none at all. they would roll over in their graves in sadness listening to a lot of the hate in here and the confederate battle flag threads

[and before you say the flag thing is freedom of speech, that's BS and you know it. Its all about the government displaying a hate symbol on public land, which is wrong. Nothing at all to do with what flag people want to fly at home, which is and always will be protected speech. ]

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06-29-2015 12:57 AM  35 months agoPost 97
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Our founding fathers created this country as a haven for people to follow whatever religious belief they chose - or none at all. they would roll over in their graves in sadness listening to a lot of the hate in here and the confederate battle flag threads
I see it working both ways.

You see it working one way.

Perhaps your eyes and ears are closed to only one freedom that's wishes to take away the freedoms of others.

That is the debate that will be raging from here forward. Hopefully it does not get out of control.

Liberty once lost, is lost forever.

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06-29-2015 01:43 AM  35 months agoPost 98
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Perhaps your eyes and ears are closed to only one freedom that's wishes to take away the freedoms of others.
How does granting a freedom you enjoy to someone else take anything away from you?

Res ipsa loquitur.

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06-29-2015 01:50 AM  35 months agoPost 99
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How does granting a freedom you enjoy to someone else take anything away from you?
You will find out as gay activists enter neighborhood churches and demand they marry them by force of law.. They will drag them through our justice system and attempt to destroy them for nothing more than practicing their right to religious freedom.

Of course, all they have to do is go down the street to another church to get married. But, they won't do that. I know it and you know it as well.

Liberty once lost, is lost forever.

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06-29-2015 01:55 AM  35 months agoPost 100
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If you guys actually believe in the freedom you spout off about, what gives you any right to force your view on God an anyone else?
Our founding fathers created this country as a haven for people to follow whatever religious belief they chose - or none at all. they would roll over in their graves in sadness listening to a lot of the hate in here and the confederate battle flag threads
[and before you say the flag thing is freedom of speech, that's BS and you know it. Its all about the government displaying a hate symbol on public land, which is wrong. Nothing at all to do with what flag people want to fly at home, which is and always will be protected speech.
The only way to call upon the Constitution for legal standing is to accept it totally. That means whether you agree with it or not. Both sides are guilty of using their own interpretation.

I never said it was LEGAL to prohibit gay marriage. It's not. There is nothing in the Constitution that prohibits gay marriage. Period. But the Constitution will also not prohibit bestiality, incest, pedophilia, promiscuity, cuckoldry, etc. You will not find a single legal leg to stand on when these things come up for societal acceptance. And they will.

To me. This is a SOCIAL CURRENT issue. A CULTURAL SHIFT issue. A SPIRITUAL issue. Not a legal one. We do NOT know what the end of Christian ethic in society will bring. But I imagine an era of corruption and immorality. The 1960's "free love sexual liberation revolution" has destroyed the family and put burden on the state. I was born a decade after it and yet I can see what damage it has done to this country. You guys don't understand how much the fabric of our society is BASED on Christian ethic and as you tear at it, you tear at the society and accelerate its collapse. This gay marriage ruling is another societal misstep that will further burden the state, because immoral behavior is bad for a civilization. The state will only be able to take on so much immorality before collapse. Furthermore, this is just another spit at the face of God and I fear for a society that rejects Him. This is only the beginning of things to come. The Devil has been crushed by Christianity for millennia and wants his due. This will get ugly.

Of course, the bible predicts every bit of it.

Oh BTW. The law doesn't dictate morality. Never has. There were laws in Roman times allowing crucifixion. Pretty immoral. The Constitution made cruel and unusual punishment illegal. But cruelty has been immoral the whole time. Law =/= morality.

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