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12-21-2003 01:14 PM  13 years agoPost 1
KennyS

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Hi

I am just toying with the idea of buying a 60 size heli, I have already got a R50v2 & Evo50. I am thinking that the 60 size will be alittle easier to see and more stable to fly.

My question is. What is the Best 60 size on the market.

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12-21-2003 01:16 PM  13 years agoPost 2
jb_turner

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Get the best you can afford.... this has been discussed before try doing a search on said subject.

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12-21-2003 01:21 PM  13 years agoPost 3
xbios

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If your already acustomed to sceadu then the logical next step would be a Freya !!

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12-21-2003 01:41 PM  13 years agoPost 4
KennyS

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jb_turner
Get the best you can afford.... this has been discussed before try doing a search on said subject.
Been there and done that. This is not about what I can or can not afford.

This is about who is the best in a 60 size. {Hirobo, TT, MA, JR}

I agree on the Freya and have been looking at it.

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12-21-2003 01:50 PM  13 years agoPost 5
V8Buggy (RIP)

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I think all of the modern 60 size kits are good, but I doubt you can find better customer service than Jeff with Hirobo. Also quite a few of the EVO parts are the same as the Freya parts, the Rappys may be this way also. Do you really want a third brand of parts to carry? Do like the way the EVO flies? The Freya is very similar, but yes a little easier to see, and better in the wind.

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12-21-2003 01:52 PM  13 years agoPost 6
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I would normally consider this a troll question (as in some one trying to start a flame war) but I'll bite this time. I fly Raptors not because I'm a cheap skate -I'm just poor- that and I like them, but if I was in the market for what I consider to be the best 60 sized helicopter I would have to go with a Fury.

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12-21-2003 01:56 PM  13 years agoPost 7
Al Magaloff

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Define "best".

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12-21-2003 01:58 PM  13 years agoPost 8
KennyS

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V8Buggy

You hit the nail on the head, I do not want 3 baskets of parts for different models.
Thats the info I was looking for, still early in the morning if you know what I mean. I am also thinking really hard about selling my 5 month old R50v2. I was thinking may to just stick with Hirobo only.

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12-21-2003 02:03 PM  13 years agoPost 9
KennyS

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Waldo
I would normally consider this a troll question (as in some one trying to start a flame war) but I'll bite this time.
Well I am definetly no troll. I'm your everyday penny pinching work aholic trying to make a living, raise a family, being married for 20 years now, And flying heli's type of guy. Yep you got it right. I'm broke most of the time.
This is just an honest question for someone trying to spend there money wisley or un-wisley as some put it.

KennyS

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12-21-2003 02:24 PM  13 years agoPost 10
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I don't consider you a troll either Kenny , but your question cannot be objectively answered on this forum. It's just a fact of life that people who own Chevys recommend Chevys and people who own Fords recommend Fords. I own a Raptor 60 and a Fury Extreme. Both are fine helicopters. If money were no object I would recommend the Fury over the Raptor but the Raptor is more bang for the buck, much lower parts count, easier to build, and a lot less maintenance time. Century and Hirobo people would disagree and would put the name of their helicopter in the spots that I've put Raptor. Whatever helicopter you decide on make sure it's convertible to a 90 because after flying your 50s you probably won't be happy with the performance of a 60 powered machine.

Bob

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12-21-2003 02:29 PM  13 years agoPost 11
KennyS

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capebob
Thanks.
I will keep all of what you said in mind when I purchase. Like you said I want to get the most bang for the buck. Money is not really a problem but it is something I keep in mind all the time.

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12-21-2003 03:08 PM  13 years agoPost 12
EChapkis

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They all fly good

To me, parts availablity and customer service is what counts.

No doubt Raptor has the best parts availability, Hirobo is not a problem for parts. As far as Customer Service, Altech/Jeff Green is the only clear winner.

Century.... lol.

Evan Chapkis Tampa, Florida

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12-21-2003 04:24 PM  13 years agoPost 13
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I have owned almost every machine out there at one point. The best all around bird in terms of crash cost and reliability has to be the Freya hands down. Or go with Robbe. Price is a little higher but quality is second to none like hirobo.

Clark

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12-21-2003 04:45 PM  13 years agoPost 14
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i owned all of the above mentioned machines, and stuck with the Freya. its simple to build \ maintain, reliable, cheap and flys absoulutely awesome ! you will not go wrong with it. and Jeff G is a plus too !

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12-21-2003 06:15 PM  13 years agoPost 15
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60 size helis

I have no experience with the Predator, but have seen it fly, and it's impressive. I don't care to sink the money into a new heli right now and am not impressed with the aluminum frames.
I sold my Freya for 3 reasons - it's heavy, the t/r belt slipped in fast backwards flight and when doing tailslides, and I had a tank problem that I never could seem to get fixed. It wasn't very noticeable with the OS61 or 70, but definitely affected the YS 80 and TT 91. The motor would go lean when doing flips or tail slides when the tank was less than 1/2 full and no combination of muffler, motor, header tank, or replumbing would make it completely disappear. The Freya is a terrific flier, maybe the best there is, but I got tired of the problems and sold it. Probably 95% of folks would never have a problem at all, and I've talked to Mike Scoles who flies harder than I do and he never mentioned either difficulty.
The distinction between the Raptor and the Fury isn't so clear cut in my mind. The standard Raptor 60 needs an upgrade clutch, metal fan, longer tail boom, and metal swashplate to be in the same league as the Fury. Once you spend the money for the upgrades, it's no cheaper. You'd be much better off to get the 90 in the first place which has all of the above. Parts prices are still Raptor cheap however, and a crash will likely cost 1/2 as much with the Raptor as the Fury. The second advantage is that it flies different, both the cyclics and the collective are not as touchy and I like the way it hovers better. It's easier to work on, too. I hate to paint and am happy to slap some stickers on the Raptor. If you want a painted canopy, they're available, and at least you have the choice. Finally, the tank is near the CG and the trim doesn't shift with the fuel level.
The Fury really is a great heli with lightening quick response, for top pilots it's probably as good as it gets. For the rest of us, I don't know that the advantage is so clear cut. I'm not planning to sell either the Fury or the Raptor and am happy to fly both. Steve.

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12-21-2003 11:26 PM  13 years agoPost 16
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Russ

I've talked with him since then. I think Mike is an honest guy who would have told me if there was a problem even when he was sponsored by Hirobo, but the questions were asked after he'd already made the switch. FWIW, Mike hated the Raptor 60. Our flying styles are about as different as it gets. I like 3D, too, but I'm more ballet as opposed to break dancing. Mike doesn't spend 10 seconds out of a 10 minute flight hovering, and probably not a lot more time than that when the sticks aren't buried in the corners someplace. I'm not sure that hovering stability means too much to him. I don't anticipate ever being able to fly like he does. The Fury was made for someone like him, but if anyone's interested, it's probably best that you get the info straight from him rather than take it second hand from me. He's a great guy and if you'd send him a PM, I'm sure you'd get an honest reply. He hangs out here by the name of Dr Scoles. Thanks. Steve.

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12-22-2003 01:48 AM  13 years agoPost 17
KennyS

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Thanks for all the responces.

I will take very careful consideration before I purchase one and make the best possible choice. As money is really not to big of a factor I still have to consider the general up-keep of a heli and the repair cost of a crash. As it is most definetly going to happen from time to time.

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KennyS

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12-22-2003 02:19 AM  13 years agoPost 18
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In My OPS

I GUess if money is not issue , VIGOR CS is better than FURY

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12-22-2003 02:21 AM  13 years agoPost 19
HYTEK36

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if money is no object get a FURY...other wish fly what you can afford to fly...the FREYA is a good 60 to 90 size machine also

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12-22-2003 02:28 AM  13 years agoPost 20
Billy Zimmerman

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rappy 60

you cant go wrong with a raptor 60. you can get parts anywhere, cheap to buy and cheap to repair after a crash and you know how well they fly just watch alan szabo jr make them tick. dont count out the rappy

good luck with whatever you decide on!

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