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03-15-2015 12:33 AM  3 years agoPost 1
gigi

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Hi all, I am hoping to obtain some advice. I am in the minority who has an Apple product and runs Windows on it

I bought in 2007 a Macbook Pro 15", model Macbook Pro 2,2 specifically, which came with 1 processor Intel Core 2 Duo 2.16 GHz, 4 MB L2 cache, only 1 GB of DDR2 SD RAM 667 MHz in one slot (the other is empty), and it has a ATY Radeon X1600 on a PCIe bus, which has only VRAM of128 MB. I believe it's made by ATI, I don't know why they spell it differently in the program which spells out what is on the machine.

This computer works perfectly. I had Windows XP SP2 updated to SP3 back when Microsoft still supported it on a 60 gig partition, and I had upgraded to Mountain Lion OSX (waste of money) on the other 60 gig partition. My problem was that it had become time to reinstall Windows, and when I did, I can no longer update to SP3, and I can no longer run RF7.0 on it

I have contemplated several strategies, including leaving it as an OSX machine, and buying a brand-new laptop to have Windows 8.1, with a beefier video card, because although RF 7.0 flew well on the fields which consist of a static picture, it was unusable on the 3D fields with objects. Unfortunately, that meant the lessons were unusable, which is one thing I'd like to correct.

My specific questions are as follows:

1) It seems to me this is still a good machine, despite being 7 years old. Is it POSSIBLE and WORTH IT to upgrade the VIDEO CARD to one with more memory, as I think that is what will give me the most bang for the buck? if so, what would be a good one to get?

2) Can it take memory cards of 2 gigs? Can I add a single 2-gig card to the open slot? For that matter, can it take 4 gigs cards, and is it worth putting them in?

3) Will beefing up the memory have any effect at all on the existing video card? I think it won't, but am not sure. Regardless, at the minimum, I will add another 1 Gig card.

4) Now the pointy question, for those who may know about Bootcamp. I am completely out of the loop. IF I upgrade the hardware, I know one option is to forego OSX entirely, since I hardly ever use it. That's a strong possibility. My question is, will BootCamp Assistant 2.0 which came with Mountain Lion work with Windows 8.1, or will I need to upgrade to whichever version of OSX is current in order to run Windows 8.1 on dual-boot on this machine? I am fairly sure I need to update OSX to do so Which really irks me and is a deal-breaker.

I would like to hear opinions, pros and cons on this whole proposal.

Alternatively, I was thinking of buying a laptop with at least a stand-alone video card, which would cost no less than $800 according to what I've seen so far... And it is not available where I live, and I'll have to wait until I travel to get it.

Many Thanks for feed-back and suggestions

Gigi

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03-15-2015 03:08 PM  3 years agoPost 2
mdu6

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You didn't say exactly why you need to run Windows - except for the use of RF7.0.

If this is the 'only' reason - I would first try running NeXt on your Mac and see how you like it. It is (IMHO) a decent simulator and cost a lot less then a new laptop.

http://www.rc-aerobatics.eu/cgm-rc-...imulator_e.html

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03-18-2015 01:10 AM  3 years agoPost 3
gigi

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NEXt?
I have never heard of NEXt... The reasons I like running Windows is because I simply like it better than OSX, and I have other software I also need to run which I already have, and which is made for Windows. I listed RF 7.0 because to me, it is the most demanding application I intend to run.

Incidentally, it runs quote well, as long as the right type of field is chosen. It is quite crappy if not.

I got some feed-back from some local friends that the video card is built into the motherboard, and cannot be changed.

Thanks for additional feed-back

Gigi

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03-19-2015 02:40 AM  3 years agoPost 4
Flys4Fun

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My recommendation is to not upgrade it, Apples motto is sell you a new one every year instead of making one machine that can grow with time. i tried upgrading my imac to the latest operating system and bought overpriced memory for it and the computer runs far slower than before and sucks ovrall and apple could give a rats a$$ about it. Top it off with iphone and ipad issues I have and Im done with them and I would just jump ship, lots of my frinds are starting to ditch em'. My next electronic purchase will definitely not be an apple product.

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03-19-2015 04:05 PM  3 years agoPost 5
BDIS

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I own a 27" iMAC and a 17" MacBook Pro. The only thing on either you can "upgrade" is the memory and the hard drive. The video card is soldered on and cannot be replaced.

Unless you need to carry everything with you, I would just buy a gaming spec'd windows Desktop. You can get a rig that will MORE than satisfy your SIM requirements for $500-$600. Then continue to use the MacBook for the other applications that don't require the extra horsepower.

To get the same with a MacBook or Windows Laptop,you will need to spend several thousand and you still wont get the performance you would get from the Desktop. Laptops are NOT designed for speed. They are designed to give you the best performance in a form factor that is lightweight and power efficient (battery life).

P.S. I just built a desktop for PC Gaming. The Macs just are not cutting it.

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03-19-2015 05:36 PM  3 years agoPost 6
ticedoff8

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I have a MBP from the era, and it maxes out at 3GB of useable RAM.
Even with two 2GB RAM cards, it only detects 3GB RAM.
This is due to the processor that was used in these first gen MBP (aluminum case, 15".
Your system may be a newer model with the processor that actually supports the 4GB.
But, that is the max for the older MBP systems. You cannot plug in two 4GB cards and expect 8GB RAM.

Using bootcamp, you can run Windows 7 (as long as you buy the Windows 7 DVD).

Personally, I would retire the system.

My MBP finally bit the dust - the video card died and it will not boot anymore.
I thought about buying a replacement system board for $100 from eBay - for about 2 seconds I thought about it.

Look on eBay and find a seller named "Dell Financial Service" or "DFS".
They are the leasing / finance arm of Dell Computers.
They sell all their leased return systems on eBay.
They offer some smoking hot deals on Dell laptops and desktops. And they sell hundreds of them.
If you miss the "high bid" on one, there are a lot more to bid on.

I bought several laptops from them - no risk. It's Dell.

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03-21-2015 12:47 AM  3 years agoPost 7
Dr. Fibinotchi

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hmm
Id agree with the above. Computers in general are always going to be upgraded throughout life. Upgrading in a timely manner on Ebay can help keepe the upgrade cost down. I just did a upgrade on a Macpro quad core for about 850 with a solid state. Its fantastic for the video editing, and the best part I got the Naza and the Alex mos 32 to work without going through a window. Field adjustments work well.

Another option maybe if you have a windows at home with certain program there may be some good remote in options for doing simming while your home in a different room. I have used a couple with my tablet to my main computer.

-Cody

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