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03-15-2015 01:35 PM  3 years agoPost 121
jharkin

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Im not seeing this great insight you guys seem to see from Greyeagle... he took half of my comment about IRA's out of context and then said something about investment sales loads and then went on about credit card fees (and yes we all know that "free" cards are paid for out of the exorbitant interest they charge the people who carry balances and the transaction fees charged to merchants - that's no great secret).
Good new's ? Dollar value is climbing FAST and Higher interest rates are on the way !
Uhh, no.

In this country, interest rates rise when the Fed increases the federal funds rate. They do this to manipulate the rate of economic growth and keep it from getting too fast (bubble) or too low (recession). Typically when regular inflation - measured by the CPI - is high they start slowly raising rates which makes it costlier to borrow and that makes companies and consumers slow down spending and the economy cool off.

What does the strength of the dollar have to do with that? Well actually the strong dollar actually lowers consumer inflation - because of our massive trade deficit it makes all he imported goods we buy seem cheaper to US consumers, and greatest of all it makes energy cheaper since oil trades in dollars worldwide. A stronger dollar buys more oil (which usually doesn't last since OPEC will cut production but right now that are not doing that in an international power struggle to try to put high cost oil producers like US shale plays and such out of business).

In sum, the strong dollar is driving inflation lower which traditionally would mean the fed would lower rates or keep them low. Problem is right now the rates are about as low as they can possibly ever go.

So we are into strange new territory where the fed is considering raising rates even with inflation staying very low (currently the CPI is well under 2%, vs. a historical average of 3.5)

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03-15-2015 02:05 PM  3 years agoPost 122
rpat

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All you have to do is hover your pointer over his name and that kind of says it all. The only person that I have ignored is just like GREYEAGLE, and his ramblings don't make any coherent thoughts either.

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03-15-2015 03:55 PM  3 years agoPost 123
fenderstrat

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ok slightly back on topic...LOL....another thing that I noticed hapening is boredom/burnout.

flying helis used to take many many hours of dedication and practice.Guys learned by learning tail in hover,side in hover,nose in,then FF,then maybe a flip or something as a reward then inverted,you get the idea.

Then we had the advent of really awesome sims.Guys were putting in crazy hours on the sim,then getting a 450 and flying it like a sim.I have seen guys that could piroflip but could not hold a nose in hover.they completely bypassed the journey and went to the end.They were flying for 6 months and doing piroflips,hurricanes, tic tocs.after a year,they were bored,where do you go?where as 5-7 years ago someone flying for a year may have just begun inverted,if that.Also where as the nitro 30/50 used to be the starter and guys went to the field.The 450 made it possible for guys to fly anywhere and with the sim, people had "been there done that",and on to the next greatest thing

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03-15-2015 05:00 PM  3 years agoPost 124
raptorapture

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That's a good point. With the advent of Sim's, ie. good Sim's, and micro to small heli's that fly pretty well via FBL's, it's a lot faster to get through the hobby. I'm hoping that I never reach there but combine that with an easy out of quad's which further reduce both likelihood and cost of crashing and you have unfortunately one potentially ephemeral hobby. I relate this to technology where newcomers never learn the basics that the forerunners were required to know to make the advancements that allowed us to get to where we are today.

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03-15-2015 05:21 PM  3 years agoPost 125
Richardmid1

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I wish sims and fbl hadn't been invented! Haha

Everything is just computerised and boring with no soul or personality!

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03-15-2015 05:25 PM  3 years agoPost 126
JasonJ

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I see it as being similar to the home computer. You bought it, brought it home, installed the software and your first session on the internet showed you there was a new pc out with twice the processor speed. It was an endless cycle of yet another new more powerful pc. It peaked though. Now how many people seek out home computers. The speed and capacity got to the point where it was enough. Now it's tablets and smart phones.

RC helicopters have followed a similar path. A bazillion new companies and kits and electronics quickly brought the rc helicopter to a plateau. Now they all pretty much do the same thing, most fly so well and so similarly there isn't as big a drive to go buy the next big thing. Sure they are trying to convince you that new servo is super awesome and it will make what you are running obsolete but it really isnt. Fbl controllers differentiate with some special features but ultimately all fly and feel pretty much the same for the average flyer. There isn't anything super new and groundbreaking. The rc helicopter pod n boom airframe doesn't have any were left to go. There isn't anything out there to make the wallet quiver. Even the Sab Goblin is not super mega new awesome. Doesn't matter to me, I'm still flying a 3 year old Velocity 50. There isn't anything out there making me want to spend the money to replace it. Only thing vaguely interesting is, well, a Goblin.

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03-15-2015 06:12 PM  3 years agoPost 127
Richardmid1

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Only thing im interested in is the trex 800 pro as they are quite exclusive and I've never owned an 800. I'll soon get bored of it though!

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03-15-2015 07:04 PM  3 years agoPost 128
Rob43

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Maybe it's the 3D fad. I still love it. But, I also spent a season a while back building a scale Super Cobra. I had a total blast with it. Time consuming with details and all, but was very rewarding. I don't think the scale guys have been impacted a great deal. In my next home, I will hopefully have a basement shop and I will build another scale project.

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03-15-2015 08:26 PM  3 years agoPost 129
rpat

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Jason,
I agree with you 100% All of my ships have the 750 Futaba gyros in them and then all of a sudden you had to have Ikon, Ikon,Ikon is all the elite wanted to talk about. Well as far as I am concerned my helis are as advanced as one could get, so why do I want to spend more money for the same results. I have a trex 700,. trex 600 ,outrage velocity and a logo 500. Why in the world would I want to get a goblin other than the status quo.

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03-16-2015 09:59 PM  3 years agoPost 130
BobOD

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You'll never be able to understand until you've tried one.

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03-17-2015 02:47 AM  3 years agoPost 131
rpat

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Baloney!!!!!!!!!! I got news for you guys I had Kyosho's that were belt driven 10 years ago...they were nice and quiet for nitro powered helis.....so whats the big deal here. Just sayn.

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03-17-2015 04:18 AM  3 years agoPost 132
JasonJ

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What I like about Gobbies is they look bigger in the air because of the fuselaginess of it.

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03-17-2015 10:57 AM  3 years agoPost 133
Richardmid1

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I like the look of the Goblin speeds but you can keep the original goblin style thanks!

Wouldn't have another anyway, too inefficient, 3.5 min flight times!

Sorry, bit off topic!

Sadly though there is only really Goblins, Logos and Trex's to choose from in E helis, all the others are either dying off or haven't taken off yet.

I don't much fancy any of them apart from the Trex 800 Pro but I don't want a 3GX so ill have to wait till they do an 800L Dominator version to get the GPro which I wouldn't mind trying.

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03-21-2015 02:01 PM  3 years agoPost 134
jharkin

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Maybe it's the 3D fad. I still love it. But, I also spent a season a while back building a scale Super Cobra. I had a total blast with it. Time consuming with details and all, but was very rewarding.
Thats very cool!!!! Last summer one day a guy showed up at our field with a scale Cobra... I think it was in the 1000 size range. Big. trying to remember I *think* it was a vario?

Very cool, I will definitely consider scale one of these days... but then again I also do scale planks and work on builds that span years there so the thought of it doesn't scare me at all

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03-24-2015 06:24 AM  3 years agoPost 135
camrob60

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align
I have a align trex 450x/xl and a kyosho nexes 30 if u want some helis

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03-27-2015 01:07 AM  3 years agoPost 136
HeimD

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There's no local support for parts and yes you can order but that can take a week sometimes to get parts.
Wow, having to wait a whole week and only sometimes? Are people seriously that impatient? Have more than one thing to fly and this "massive wait time" will be no issue at all. Order multiples of the common parts you need. Ain't that hard to stay in the air, folks.

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03-27-2015 01:19 AM  3 years agoPost 137
rpat

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O YEA you obviously don't fly any outrage helis.

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03-27-2015 01:28 AM  3 years agoPost 138
HeimD

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And, your point is? Again, have something(s) else to fly while you wait.

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03-28-2015 12:18 PM  3 years agoPost 139
rpat

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Heim,
You missed my point.

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