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12-19-2003 01:08 AM  13 years agoPost 1
greatplanes

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i now own a near new r50v2 that is slightly used. i wish to switch to 60 size and maybe trading for an ergo 60 w/ ys 61. should i or not. any present and former ergo owners please chime in on this post, as far as reliability goes, upgrades, problems etc. also with the prospect of 3D in the future, would it be more prudent to keep what i have, or go for it. please do not start any flame wars over this. just looking for some honest opinions from owners of this machine
thanks in advance

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12-19-2003 01:27 AM  13 years agoPost 2
capebob

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You may want to go to a 60 heli but I can't imagine why you would want an Ergo unless you get it for next to nothing. Not that it's a bad machine but Horizon is no longer importing them and there are several other 60 size helis out there that are better machines at lower cost. Ive never owned an Ergo but the ones that I've seen flew very well and the owners were happy with them.

Bob

Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm. Churchill

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12-19-2003 01:32 AM  13 years agoPost 3
Stet

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I think you will be happier with the R50. OF all the helis I have, the R50V1 is by far my favorite. I also have 30's, 60's and gasoline.

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12-19-2003 04:16 AM  13 years agoPost 4
Ivan

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Probably try a freya for the sixty machine. It is cheaper to rebuild, and lighter than the ergo, so it performs better, and teh control system is not as funky.

It takes a while to figure out the ergo control linkages, and a lot of tweaking to get it right.

The ergo is much smoother than the freya, but harder to get good response from. Plus it takes like 30 some odd 5x8 mm flanged ball bearings to get rid of the bushings, which get loos in a hurry.

I could maybe suggest the raptor 60, but after my raptor 30, I won't own anything that says raptor on it again. I just didn't like it at all. Maybe the 60 is a better machine.

I can't say much about anythign else as I haven't had the pleasure of destroying an Xcell or a Robbe..................yet.


I woudl also suggest that you quiz a lot of the guys at the field about what they are flying. Try and sort out the BS and see through to what they are really saying. That can help with your choice.

I came, I saw, I hovered

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12-19-2003 07:11 AM  13 years agoPost 5
Helimex

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I understand that Raptor parts are much cheaper and readily available more so than JR. I fly an Ergo 30 and am quite happy with it but if I had to do it again, I'd definitely lean towards a Raptor.

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12-19-2003 11:16 PM  13 years agoPost 6
LUNITIC

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Leave the Ergo alone

I used to own an Ergo 60 sport. I wouldn't buy one again. The thing is big and heavy and can only serve you well if all you want to do is hover and some simple foward flight. Oh! Did I mention that the thing is Big! Try fitting that in your car. Parts are expensive and the parts count is high. I would put my money in something a lot cheaper, such as the Raptor, Cypher 50 EX ($200) or one of the Century birds (Hawk $165) and take the money you would otherwise spend on that JR bird and use it for something else like fuel....Unless you're getting the JR bird dirt cheap. Then again, I still woudn't do it!

Tim Richburg Chula Vista, CA

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12-20-2003 12:15 AM  13 years agoPost 7
Stet

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We had a lot of ergos at our field in the old days. It can certainly be a performer and can do any of the "standard 3D" stuff, but definately not the stuff that really puts the tweak on the airframe. The rocking lever set is tedious to set up, but not a big deal. Helps if it has been upgraded with bearings in that location. My first heli was an Ergo 60 and I got a lot of use out of it and sold it a couple years later.

It is pretty clunky and as said big (what 60 isn't?). However, if you just want a nice 60 to fly around, it should suit your needs nicely. Check my gallery for the way to cut the canopy so it doesn't look so dorky.

Don't crash it and it should last a long time as the parts are well made and solid. If you think you will be crashing a lot, I wouldn't recommend it. Most of the guys I hang out with take it easy and crash maybe once per year. Other guys I know crash like once per week, usually pushing their machines to the limits.

Honestly, I think the most a used Ergo airframe is worth is about $200, and that is assuming it is in absolutely perfect condition, complete with composite blades. I had Funkey (Hurricane) 680s, and an OSSXWC 61 on mine which worked really nicely.

It would be a good 60 on a budget.

No one makes a descent canopy for it, other than the ridiculously expensive one made by JR, thus the cut job which makes the bleach bottle setup look actually pretty good.

But if I were you, I would stick with my R50 for sure. I much prefer it over the Ergo, and you could spend the money on a metal head and some digital servos instead.

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12-20-2003 01:15 AM  13 years agoPost 8
ChrisW

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My vote is for the Raptor50 V2...

I just got a R50V2...It's the first "little" heli I've had in a long time.
I've had more fun in the last 2 months with that machine!
I went with the OS50 and found the performance (power-to-weight wise) to be similar to my 90-size machines... the CF TT blades auto great! I've had lots of little machines in the past...Shuttles, Concepts, GPH's, Kalt 30 Baron, TSK 5-star.... The Raptor 50 blows them all away in out-of-the-box performance....I hear the Hirobo EVO is damned good also.

I just had a crash & ordered my parts today .... about $150 total including replacing the CF TT 600 blades... A crash on the Ergo60 will run about $400 on average if you include a set of composite blades.

The coolest part about crashing the Raptor is there are lots of aftermarket parts that are even less expensive than the TT parts (booms, etc.) which are cheap/inexpensive to begin with.

I had a couple Ergo 60's in the past and they were fun machines also...but they showed a good bit of wear rather quickly. Crash costs were about in-line with the typical X-cell of the mid-90's. The machine really needed quite a few upgrades to make it fly well over time and they were VERY expensive....But one advantage of finding a used Ergo nowadays they usually have many of those upgrades on them.
My friend came across an Ergo60 with OS61SX and just about every single upgrade that was made for it for $600... The machine easily had an additional $700-800 extra in upgrades on it!

Go with the Rappy 50V2...You won't be dissapointed.
-ChrisW

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