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12-17-2003 07:27 PM  13 years agoPost 1
spattison

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Canton, Ohio

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I can see where putting some serious money into this hobby would become really easy.

I just priced out some items to see what kind of a total I was looking at and it was allot even though I wasnt finished with all that I would need. All the items were priced from http://www.heliproz.com.

Sceadu 50 EVO 389.99
OS 50 SX-H with MVP Muffler 204.99
JRXP8103PCM 8 Channel Radio with GY401/9253 gyro combo 699.99
HP Basic Flight Support Set 179.99
HP 3050 Super Digital Flitepack 399.99

Total 1874.95

I havent added blades yet and I know there are other items I am missing.

This is just a rough draft shopping list here, feel free to comment and maybe offer suggestions. 8)

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12-17-2003 07:35 PM  13 years agoPost 2
Hotshot Charlie

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Spend a little at a time.

You can always do like I have done, not that it is the way to do it... takes patience.... but buy one item at a time and save up for the next one. The first newbie purchase should be a simulator (Realflight G2) then save for the next purchase.

By doing it this way, you can hide how expensive it is from the wife and you really don't notice the outlay of expense.

Like I said... one step at a time, just like flying heli's.... one small step at a time.

Have fun !!!

Cheers,
Rob

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12-17-2003 07:44 PM  13 years agoPost 3
z11355

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get the $620 Evo/OS/blade deal they
have and then get a cheap set of 600mm
blades (put the nice CF blades away
for a while).

Forget the $400 digital super pack thing.
There is almost nothing in it you need
(you'd duplicate the servos and gyro
actually). You'll want a good harness.
I've always thought JR batteries suck.

Get a simulator.

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12-17-2003 11:20 PM  13 years agoPost 4
A. Bundy

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Raptor50/os50/muffler/carbon blades$550 Futaba9c$420 401gyro+servo$189 Starter/batt/box/tools $200 = $1359 all at heliproz

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12-18-2003 12:17 AM  13 years agoPost 5
z11355

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Rap50 == POS

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12-18-2003 12:59 AM  13 years agoPost 6
cmdiduca

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I have to agree with Z. Spending the extra money on the digital flight pack is a waste of 400.00 bucks. You already have all the on board equipt in the radio package. I dont think you need digitals at this point in the game.

I dont know what comes in the heliproz starter kit but i do have a field box electric fuel pump,starter battery, and power panel for sale for 75 plus shipping. Look in my classifieds if interested.

chris

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12-18-2003 01:04 AM  13 years agoPost 7
fritz

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get some mor e inexpensive

radio gear, should maybe get a .30 size bird and save about half that amount to get started........you might not even like it after you get that much tied up, and its worth 1/2 if you 'unload it

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12-18-2003 01:05 AM  13 years agoPost 8
fritzthecat

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|Quote:
Rap50 == POS|

Fritz
Raptor pilot


'Send Money, Women and Guns!'

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12-18-2003 04:19 AM  13 years agoPost 9
cmdiduca

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NIce,
I can feel the love from all of us Raptor owners.
Chris

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12-18-2003 11:39 AM  13 years agoPost 10
heli13

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Grovetown, Ga.

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Hehehehehehehehehe....ya just gotta love it...

Raptor 30
Ergo Schweizer 30SS CCPM
Ergo 60 Sport

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12-18-2003 07:54 PM  13 years agoPost 11
spattison

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Canton, Ohio

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Classifieds?

Where are the classifieds? I must have over looked them while scooting through the site.

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12-18-2003 08:33 PM  13 years agoPost 12
Cessna

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Tucson, Arizona

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If you are really on a tight budget and want to fly helis, I'd take a good look at a Raptor 30. IMO they are one of the best helis to start with. They are inexpensive (under $400 with engine), fly good, are easy to build and repair, repair parts are inexpensive and easy to come by.

When learning, you don't need the power of the 50. You can still do aerobatics and minor 3D with a Raptor 30. Forget the digitals...you don't need them. A Raptor 30 flies quite nicely on basic servos. Hitec 525s or 545s work fine. The may not center perfectly every time but they certainly work well enough to learn on and for $25 or so a piece it won't break the bank.

Also, do worry about running CF blades. The Raptor woodies are great and less than $30.

If you stay with the hobby you will want to upgrade at some point. But the Raptor 30 will take you a long way. You are going to be crashing some anyway. Don't run high end gear while learning. Keep it cheap!

Just my $.02!

Steve Cass

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12-18-2003 09:00 PM  13 years agoPost 13
Doug

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Port Saint Luice Florida....

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Cessna hit the spot (but the Raptor 50 does "kick ass"

First member of Member of Bearings Anonymous

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12-18-2003 09:14 PM  13 years agoPost 14
spattison

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Canton, Ohio

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Cessna

I have been emailing/talking to a guy in my area and just found out that there is a hobby store within 10 minutes of my house that carrys Raptor crash kits and upgrade parts so I have revamped my list of what to buy based on that.

I have read and seen on the forums here and in other places that the radio is the one thing that you should go ahead and spend the money on. What do you think?
The radio is the single most expensive item on the list. I saw one over at hiproz that was $1300. Yeah it looked all shiny and new and hi-tech with all the doodads and what not but at this ponit I have no idea what kind of radio to get. Sure I have read that you should go ahead and spend a good chunk of your starting budget on a nice 8 channel radio but again I have no idea they whys or where fors in all the radio buisness.

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12-18-2003 11:17 PM  13 years agoPost 15
A. Bundy

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z - Why R50 a POS?I disagree.I have also seen a R50 crash 50mph backwards inverted and cost $130 including TT carbon blades.Try that with other choppers......With good 9252's in it you can not beat it for the money....Watch what Alan Szabo Jr. can do with one of these POS helis.

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12-19-2003 03:31 AM  13 years agoPost 16
shawgl

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Murrieta, CA

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spattison

You are absolutely correct in saying to spend the money on the radio! I recieved that advice when I started and was told not to get less than a Futaba 8U and was explained the funtions it had available and how they came into play. I ended up with a Futaba 9C and have since went to a 10X by JR. I would strongly suggest you do not get less than a 9C from Futaba or an 8103 from JR. They are both good radios and you will not outgrow them for an extremely long time. I have had some experience with the 8103 of my friends and it's a little weird to program compared to the 9C but it is still a good piece of gear. When you get to shopping for your field gear take into consideration of what you have already. I used my Makita cordless drill as a starter for over a year! It's great. Manual fuel pump attached to the jug and a rechargable glow ignitor and your in buisness, next thing was a decent charger. Just my 2 cents. good luck.

GET THE SIM!!!!!

In God we trust, everyone else we monitor.

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12-19-2003 03:50 PM  13 years agoPost 17
Cessna

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Tucson, Arizona

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Yes, the radio is an item that you should spend more $$ on. It's hard to recommend that someone starting out investing in a top of the line radio when they don't know if they will stay with the hobby. But you will be sorry if you go cheap on the radio.

I suggest that you get something that has at least 8 channels. You need the extra channels to plug in gyros, govenors, etc. The JR8103 or Futaba 9C would work well for you. Get the heli version. You can save money buying something used; but, buyer beware!

I use a JR 10X. My buddy uses a Futaba 9Z. Please DO NOT ask which is better...you will get another flaming debate going here on the list. Both are great radios and each have their strong and week points. I suggest that you go with whatever the other local guys are using. If you get something different you may be on you own trying to set up the radio. The guys will help if they know the radio.

Hope this helps!

Steve Cass

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12-19-2003 09:23 PM  13 years agoPost 18
spattison

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Canton, Ohio

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Hehehe

The first purchases I planned on making were the radio and the simulator. I read somthing about being able to plug your radio into the unit that comes with the simulator so that you can get used to your own radio. I thought that was a pretty niffty idea.

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12-19-2003 10:17 PM  13 years agoPost 19
A. Bundy

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Aurora,IL. 30W/SW of Chicago

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Not that big of a deal.We fly on the g2 box supplied-never even feel a difference.I fly a 9c futaba and I think it is a great radio.

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12-20-2003 12:22 AM  13 years agoPost 20
Hotshot Charlie

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Tupelo, MS

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Ratchet Removal

Hi gang,

Probably a stupid question, but what is the proceedure in removing the ratcheting on the collective/throttle on the air version of a JR 8103 ?

I bought the air version before I realized I was going to get into Heli's.

Cheers,
Rob

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