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12-17-2003 01:30 PM  13 years agoPost 1
fliggyg

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Albertville, Al

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I am very new to the hobby of heli's. I purchased my heli at the closest hobby store I could find near to me. The owner helped me with the initial setup of the heli. I flew a few tanks of fuel on my own and all went well. I began forward flight and again I was very non-confident but all went well. I asked around to find someone help me learn and guess what.. NO LUCK>>> well i went back to the hobby shop thinking I needed to setup the heli for idle up 1 mode and change my normal mode. I was told it was originally setup to have 0 degrees on the bottom and 9 on top. When I went back he adjusted it to -4 and +9. and set the idle up the same with an exception of the engine runs at 65%. Well well I took it to the field to give it a whirl and whril it did.. It was very very unstable. It even seems the engine was running more rpm's than before . I played around with it and tried and tried to fine tune it but it is still barely capable of flying. I called the hobby shop and the owner is not going to be available until after the first of the year. I cant waite that long to fly.. I also asked to buy a pitch gauge and he said "ah, you aint in no need of one of those there pitch gauges, yous can use mines if yous needs one".(seriously). I am sure he means well but look at the mess i am in. I called the hobby shop again and asked if they had one to sell me.. Guess... ok Ill tell you...NOPE>> and wont be making any new orders. Now I am up the creek without a paddle, hell i dont even have a boat at this time.... What to do what to do..... I have placed an add in the classifieds to find a pitch guage but I am afraid if I get one I will make it even more unstable. If anyone can help please let me know what and how..... Yes I have looked at the pilot locator and emailed everyone (the two of them) that was close to me. I live in north alabama and would be will ing to give my number out for phone calls for help.
PLease any advice is appreciated....

Unfortunately My budget cant support a gy401 until after christmas. The hobby shop sold me a hi-low gyro and told me that was all i needed. It was only after i began flying i realized i prolly needed a HH gyro. So I have that battle I am fighting as well.... I sure hope I dont have to stay grounded. i thought being grounded was for shildren and teenagers.. Not adults with expensive toys.. But my wife begs to differ....



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12-17-2003 01:45 PM  13 years agoPost 2
z11355

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New England

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first, find some local help.

start here:
http://www.p-locate.rc-helipad.com/alabama.htm

edit... didn't see the original part where
you said you already looked at the
locater. It's worth a multi-hour drive
to find some help and learn, trust me.

second, use the net. try online shops
like:

ronlund.com
heliproz.com
mtahobbies.com

actually, you're not in a bad situation.
The machine just needs to be tweaked
a bit by someone knowledgable.

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12-17-2003 05:09 PM  13 years agoPost 3
csims723

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LaGrange, GA

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raptor V2

You might try looking at http://www.raptortechnique.com. These guys will take you from set up to flying.Also I highly reccomend a pitch guage. You will have a hard time setting up with out one. Chris

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12-17-2003 05:43 PM  13 years agoPost 4
rob_jones

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Perry, GA

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Depending on where you are in AL, it would probably be worth the trip to Andersonville, GA and Hodge's Hobbies. There are always people around who can help you out.

PM me if you think you can make it and I'll be sure to be there. You didn't mention what kind of heli you've got, but I've worked with most of them.

Blade 550X, T-Rex 450 Pro FBL

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12-17-2003 11:33 PM  13 years agoPost 5
A. Bundy

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Aurora,IL. 30W/SW of Chicago

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You have to find hands on help.I'm sure the guy means well and might know what he is doing,but you got to set these things up at the field.The bench set ups get you close but they always need some fine tuning to get just right.I recommend the Robart pitch guage.www.Heliproz.com has a good website for looking at tools and stuff.I have had no issues dealing with them either.They are good guys.I can't blame your dealer,he did say he would help you.Hobby shops are very busy this time of year!Finding a club is your best bet no matter how far the drive.Also,your setup might not be too far off.

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12-18-2003 12:12 AM  13 years agoPost 6
fliggyg

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Albertville, Al

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Wow thanks for all the kind offers. Here is the deal.. I dont blame the hobby shop. I just want to be able to fly. I would love nothing more to get with any of you guys that can and is willing to help. I live actually in the proximate middle of all the areas mentioned with the exception of the Georgia address (that one i am not familiar with). My wife is from the Bynum area, I travel to Birmingham with my work when I want/need to and my wife works in Huntsville. Out of all fairness I have contacted Huntsville club and they are very friendly. the only problem is schedules. I cant work out a time to meet any of them to fly. They mostly fly on weekends and i have no rhyme nor reason for my work schedule except weeakends are proven to be difficult lately. i can meet early or late , I just want to meet soon.... I will take what i can get because I more than appreciate the offers. I would really like to get in touch with a couple of you guys and compare schedules.. Anyone wanting to contact me please email me or pm me and I will give my phone number...... Once again thank you for all the assitance...



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12-18-2003 07:10 AM  13 years agoPost 7
Helimex

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Oklahoma

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I'm no pro but I can't imagine trying to set up a pitch curve without a gauge. As a beginner like myself I would think one would want to set up the heli with as much care as possible to make the model fly in a very docile manner and that would definitely include close attention to pitch curves. I'm currently running 0,5,9 pitch with linear throttle. Seems to work great for a novice like myself. Good Luck

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12-18-2003 10:19 AM  13 years agoPost 8
FlynHeli

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Las Vegas, NV

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I feel for you when I got my first heli I couldn't wait to fly crashed it three times tillI I got some help told my self I can do this. Getting help is the best thing I ever did, but if you are going to try by yourself get a pitchgage. My heli is set up in nomal -2,0,11 in stunt -11,0,11. Throttle is also set up liner. I belive that means that at half stick throttle is at 50%, bottom stick 0% and top is 100% for normal. for stunt would be bottom 100% half 50% top 100%. hope I am right on this double check, and if I am wrong please correct me so I can learn.

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12-20-2003 01:16 AM  13 years agoPost 9
fliggyg

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Albertville, Al

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Thank you DavidH

WELL today i met up with a fellow by the name davidh. Some of you may very well know him. He met me this afternoon and was a ton of help. He readjusted my entire heli. Let me restate that.. He mechanically readjusted my entire heli. I had servo's in backwards, throws were off, well just about everything was not right. He took his time and made sure everything was PERFECT>>>> then the test.. He had me fuel the heli and fire her up. After she was running he placed her on the ground and appeared to be confident all was well. I tried not to show the fear I had inside (alot of my money fixen to be tossed in the air if all fails). HE throttled it up and then up she went. He had to make a few engine adjustments. He had the heli flying almost by herself (we were having around 20mph wind gusts). He handled the heli better than I could have ever imagined. He was very respectfull with my heli and only flew it enough to assure the setups were solid. He took no additional chances.... What a good man..... During the entire process he explained everything he was doing and answered my list of questions. He never spoke down to me although it was obvious when he met me I was very new to the hobby. The 80 mile drive I drove was more than worth it. Not for the setup help but for everything including meeting such a decent person. I decided after we agreed we were leaving to stay and try the new setup for myself. David had left by this time so i was all alone. It flew like a champ just wish I could say the same for me.... WHat a great day... Well when I was flying the last time another young man pulled up. He stated he had got into heli's 2 weeks ago. We called David and David came back up there. I believe they had plans to setup that other guys heli tonite. I close this by saying, Thank You DavidH, People like you make this world alot better place.......
I also would like to say thanks to all the reply posts, I really need more help in learnign to fly and I am willing to drive around and visit all of you.....



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12-20-2003 04:45 AM  13 years agoPost 10
cmdiduca

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Mt. Pocono, Pa

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I cant wait that long to fly
I see he is addicted already.
Good for you man
Chris

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12-21-2003 12:03 AM  13 years agoPost 11
A. Bundy

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Aurora,IL. 30W/SW of Chicago

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Good story.

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12-21-2003 02:48 PM  13 years agoPost 12
Warlock1

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Huntsville, Al.

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need some help?

hey fliggyg, i live in huntsville and would be more than happy to give you a hand if needed.

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