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12-16-2003 09:28 PM  13 years agoPost 1
daren

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Just received my sb16 for my tempest fai, having never used hatori pipes or miniature aircraft equipment before can someone show me pictures of how the bracket goes together!

i've looked on ricks site and have seen the picture for the extreme but on the fai the boom strut get in the way of the bottom mount.

thanks

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12-16-2003 09:55 PM  13 years agoPost 2
Rican11Heliman - Orlando, FL - My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

you can do this...

and save money...

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12-16-2003 09:59 PM  13 years agoPost 3
daren

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Cheers Rican11

Am i correct in thinking only 1 standoff is used?

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12-17-2003 03:07 AM  13 years agoPost 4
sluggoElite Veteran - Kitchener Ont - My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

You could also contact Eric stolz and get a fury clamp made for the sb16



Should work great with the Tempest and will last longer then 3 flights like the stock one.

Chris

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12-17-2003 03:17 AM  13 years agoPost 5
Bill Ludwig

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I agree...Erich's clamp is the ONLY way to go!! Top quality and fits perfect. Simple to install and is bullet-proof.

Here's his info if interested:

Erich Stolz
estolz@earthlink.net

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12-17-2003 02:32 PM  13 years agoPost 6
Mujenpwr

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How about the new SB16 anyone try it yet? No clamp is required.

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12-17-2003 02:44 PM  13 years agoPost 7
Vinnie

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Erich

Erich's clamp is the best.

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12-17-2003 03:16 PM  13 years agoPost 8
mrNoodles

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The "new" SB16 shown in Mujenpwrs post must the best available!

/Fredrik
'Hm now I just have to find out where to connect the GV1 sensor to the Jazz80 ESC.

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12-17-2003 03:19 PM  13 years agoPost 9
Mujenpwr

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I have Erichs clamps and they work great. I like them better than the Hatori/MA clamps. I just was curious about this SB16 design.

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12-17-2003 03:29 PM  13 years agoPost 10
mrNoodles

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A friend uses the new style mount (#998) on his Tempest, looks great.

Though he recently bought it, so time will tell I guess, but there cant be so many things that can fail/break.

/Fredrik
'Hm now I just have to find out where to connect the GV1 sensor to the Jazz80 ESC.

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12-17-2003 06:13 PM  13 years agoPost 11
Vinnie

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whoa

I'm really confused - Hatori already had a one piece muffler which was the equivalent of the SB-16.

Why was it necessary to introduce a two piece muffler that doesn't require a clamp?

I don't like this new muffler for the same reason I don't like the one piece muffler, it puts more stress on the engine.

Supporting the muffler against the frame is a clear advantage - am I missing something here?!

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12-17-2003 06:18 PM  13 years agoPost 12
Mujenpwr

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I am not sure either, but as I understand it this new design is a "break-away" style. I am not sure, that is why I was asking has anyone mounted one and can they explain its mount style.

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12-17-2003 07:05 PM  13 years agoPost 13
mrNoodles

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that is why I was asking has anyone mounted one and can they explain its mount style
You put the flanged mount with o-rings on the engine, then you slide on the muffler and puts on the 4 screws with rubber bushings between the mount and the muffler (1 in each corner).
Its a rubber suspensioned muffler No need for a clamp, but still less sensitive for vibrations.

/Fredrik
'Hm now I just have to find out where to connect the GV1 sensor to the Jazz80 ESC.

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12-17-2003 07:48 PM  13 years agoPost 14
Buzzin Brian

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If you look at that bell crank closely in the PIC you can actually see, it is up side down. And of course David is correct. The ball link should be one the inside for that link, not the outside. Just an observation.

Build it, fly it, crash it. Repeat as often as needed.

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12-17-2003 08:44 PM  13 years agoPost 15
Vinnie

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whoa

I'm still confused - why would the two piece muffler run better than the one piece? The baffles are the same...

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12-17-2003 09:44 PM  13 years agoPost 16
sluggo

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Hey guys check out this clamp made by gjestico

I got one on the way for my X-spec. They look sweet and should stand up to the vibs for a long time.

Chris

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12-17-2003 09:49 PM  13 years agoPost 17
daren

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Having now fitted my new sb16 i'm finding that the front touches the canopy! don't tell me to trim the canopy as i've just had it sprayed.

why oh why didn't i stick with the mp2

Daren
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12-17-2003 09:53 PM  13 years agoPost 18
mrNoodles

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Vinnie

The 2 piece wont break the engine case in a crash.

/Fredrik
'Hm now I just have to find out where to connect the GV1 sensor to the Jazz80 ESC.

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12-17-2003 10:07 PM  13 years agoPost 19
sluggo

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Ya darren most canopies need trimming with the sb16 mufflers. Not a big deal though, Just trim the canopy then seal the trimmed edge with ca or the wifes nail polish to stop fuel from getting under the nice paint job.

Chris

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12-17-2003 10:47 PM  13 years agoPost 20
Vinnie

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trim

The SB-16 touches my canopies when using Erich's clamp, no big deal I just trim a bit with a sanding drum and then seal the edge with thick CA and accelerator. Did this on 4 canopies so far and they all work great!

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