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12-15-2003 09:18 PM  13 years agoPost 1
spattison

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Canton, Ohio

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I have been looking into RC Helicopters for many years but just couldnt bring my self to cough up the money for them. Recently my wife told me to either get one or quit drooling over them. So with that in mind I have begun to do the research on them. I know that I would like to get a Raptor 60 to start with. From what I have read the 60's are a little more stable and easier to fly even if they are more expensive. I have a list of gear to buy but I just had a few questions before I go off and start my buying spree.

How much fuel do the copters use during flight, ballpark?
At $20.00 a gallon it could get REALLY expensive really quick if they are gas guzzlers.

Are the copters adversly affected by cold weather? I.E. Can I fly it in the winter time or would that not be a good idea?

Is it really all that difficult to get used to the control?
I have run RC Cars and trucks before but nothing of this calibur and all of them were electric.

I understand what kind of a "money pit" of a hobby I am looking at getting into but would still like to keep the pricing as reasonable as possible. Say...under $2000.00 to start.

Any other expenses I incure I can always pass of as operating expenses to my wife, since she is the one who said to go ahead and get it. Hehehe...

Any information would be really appreciated.

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12-15-2003 09:34 PM  13 years agoPost 2
m1ke1

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New Salem, Massachusetts

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I fly year round here in massachusetts the cold does not really efect the heli much other than a little motor tuning. As far as fuel it all depends how much you fly now a 60 will burn twice as much fuel almost as a 30
I average in the warm weather about a gallon to gallon and a half a week durring the real warm weather and in the cold probably more like 1 per 2 - 3 weeks.

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12-15-2003 09:48 PM  13 years agoPost 3
z11355

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New England

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if you fly in the winter, you just need to
be aware of certain things like the
batteries getting sluggish and plastic
becomes brittle. You'll want a 'radio glove' to protect your hands.

Most machines fuel tanks are sized so
that you'll get around 12 minutes or
so of flight. 60 size machines have a
16oz (1pt) tank. 30 size machines
use about 1/2 that approx. So yea,
hovering a 60 can get expensive.

60's also cost 2-3x more in repair costs.

Get a simulator like Reflex or G2. It'll
save you tons of $$$$$$

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12-15-2003 09:51 PM  13 years agoPost 4
leadlag

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Worthing UK

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I would recommend a Raptor 30 over a 60. The parts and fuel costs are alot less and if you wanna progress you are going to want to practice lots which means burning alot of fuel also you are bound to have a mishap.
The 30 also has a belt drive which is cheaper and less likely to break in a crash.
The best bit of advice i can give you is to join a club or get someone who knows what they are doing to set up and test fly the heli for you. A badly set up heli is alot more difficult to fly and you will take alot longer to learn.I dont know your area and what is available so you might wanna allocate some of that budget for a club/tuition

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12-15-2003 10:07 PM  13 years agoPost 5
Dsilver668

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Sunnyvale CA

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Newbie Question

Well, since you started out by saying you had an issue with the money, I would suggest a 30. I purchased one from Heliproz. I got there Caliber 30 Combo. I also got the sportsman flight support set. I had more than I needed which is just what I want so I don't find myself asking around for a tool. All together it came out to around $1,500.00.
The Caliber was to easy to put together, and it has a belt rear, and primary which makes it smooth and quiet.
GET A SIMULATOR!
I am saving up nw for the realflight G2. Figure the $200.00 into your purchase cost now. Trust me..
Even the pros use a simluator to try new things. It is a lot cheaper to crash on yur computer than in real life. I have heard enough stories about kids who have flown real flight for two to three months having the training gear off, and doing basic acrobatices by their second tank. Can't stress that enough.. Do it on the PC, then head out to the feild after to have become comfortable with it.

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12-16-2003 07:51 PM  13 years agoPost 6
Helimex

Senior Heliman

Oklahoma

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If I had to start over again I'd definitely go with the Raptor 50. Thunder Tiger parts are cheaper and easier to get than the other brands. Most definitely get the G2 Sim. I would not be where I am now in my skill level without the sim. Worth every bit of $200! Good luck.

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12-16-2003 08:02 PM  13 years agoPost 7
spattison

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Canton, Ohio

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Thanks for all of the great responses guys.

How about the remote unit though? How difficult is it to get a handle on that? Like I stated above I have run RC Cars and trucks before but thats a simple setup compared to this.

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12-16-2003 08:04 PM  13 years agoPost 8
Doug

Elite Veteran

Port Saint Luice Florida....

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It's all part of the learning, you don't realy know what your thumbs are doing when you fly

First member of Member of Bearings Anonymous

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12-16-2003 08:21 PM  13 years agoPost 9
d-n-jensen

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Bellevue WA

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The best piece of advice for any newbee is to find the local flying field and ask question of the experienced heli pilots in your area. Take your time and investigate the multitude of equipement and options available to you. Get an experienced heli pilot to help you set up and fly the heli first and let them get it happy in hover mode before you take the controls. This will save you countless hours and $$$$. Many have gone the path alone and some have succeeded but more end up with a crashed heli collecting dust in the closet. This hobby takes time and a close attention to details to be truly satisfying.

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