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12-15-2003 04:48 PM  13 years agoPost 1
DrDan

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Sorry about the earlier post. I forgot to attach the pics. Here it is again:

I just wanted to know if my wiring is ok. The manual doens't give any info on this. I am about finished with this and was wondering if there was a better way to organize the wires. Also, do I need to trim the JR servo horns any? They don't weem to be getting in the way of anything.
This is one fun heli to build. If anyone has any better wayto organize the wiring, please let me know and maybe send pictures.


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12-15-2003 04:53 PM  13 years agoPost 2
cwm

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Get rid of those plastic wire ties the WILL cut into you wires!
Use Velcro ties instead.
I get the ones from Home Depo or Radio Shack cut them in Half they work great!!

Just Fly It!!!

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12-15-2003 04:54 PM  13 years agoPost 3
w.pasman

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I recomemnd using some cable protector to avoid the tieraps and plastic digging into the wires

http://graphics.tudelft.nl/~wouter/...ing/wiring.html

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12-15-2003 07:42 PM  13 years agoPost 4
DrDan

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Ok, ill get rid of the ties. I never even thought that they would cut into the wires. Cutting them off now! Thanks for the advice!

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12-16-2003 12:05 AM  13 years agoPost 5
TerranAce007

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I was told not to use the twisty ties with the metal wire in the middle, but I use the plastic ties and never had any problem.

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12-16-2003 01:19 AM  13 years agoPost 6
Wally

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I find the ty-wraps handy, so what I do is first wrap a piece of the soft velcro around the wires and then put the ty-wrap around that.

Quick and easy.

The Big Wally

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12-16-2003 01:23 AM  13 years agoPost 7
vortechZ230

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Go to the hardware store and get some Velcro straps!, these work great!, end of story!.....

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12-16-2003 01:28 AM  13 years agoPost 8
vetrider

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JEZZUS PEOPLE

Why do you think wire/zip ties were invented?
You can use zip ties on anything as long as you use some common sense and don't tighten them TOO tight. They just need to snug the wires...not put a death grip on them. There's probley not too many real aircraft that don't have some on some wires somewhere.

Nolan

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12-16-2003 03:15 AM  13 years agoPost 9
eddie13231

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I've had zip ties on my servo wires for 5 gallons with no problems, just make them snug.

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12-16-2003 03:45 AM  13 years agoPost 10
rtrickyjr

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wiring/velcro

I don't use a zip tie directly onto the wire, but I do wrap the wire with small, 1/2" wide piece of self stick velcro, then I use a zip tie. I also use some wire 'loom' where I can, expecially if several wires are routed the same direction, and going the same place.

I buy self stick velcro from an all purpose store that has a material section. It's in different colors, on large spools, and cheap to purchase. You can roll it up on itself (like a roll of tape) and keep several around. I buy the 1" wide stuff, and then, when needed, cut it to 1/2" widths. I even make a few little rolls of it up and carry in my 'parts' bin that I use at the field. I also mount the battery to the tray with velcro, but I use rubber bands to hold the radio receiver on, that way the foam isn't as compressed (better to isolate vibration) and it will come loose in a crash, which helps in the damage department. Just inspect the rubber bands every now and then.

If you're using an 1800 mah battery pack, or a five cell, you can easily make an extended battery tray with lite ply, which gives a nice platform for mounting the pack snuggly, and radio gear onto that with the rubber bands.


-Rick-

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12-16-2003 02:54 PM  13 years agoPost 11
Scooterpilot

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Wiring,

Hi All,

This may sound funny but I use horse wrap to secure/tie my wires.

Horse wrap is used as a bandage wrap for horse's ankles. It is a strecthable rubber that acts like velcro, in that it sticks to itself and you can wrap it as tight as you want and it won't chafe wire. I use it to secure my battery, RX, wires, etc.

It's about $2.00 a roll and you can by it at any feed store. IT comes in different colors

Regards,

Team Thunder Tiger, Team Futaba, Two G-4's, Two X50's YS60SR,Tx12Z/14FG,YSRep,RailBlades/S

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12-16-2003 03:20 PM  13 years agoPost 12
DrDan

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You can also buy it at walmart or another type of department store. It is also called Coach's Tape. It is brown, so some may not like the color. We use it at our office for sports injuries. It would work good for the wires. I will try it tonight. Thanks for the advice!

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12-16-2003 03:31 PM  13 years agoPost 13
Drunk Monk

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I use spira band round the wires then tie wrap to the frame making sure it's not too tight. Black spiraband looks dead good IMO and gives the wire enough room to flex alittle without getting stretched.


Stephen

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12-16-2003 05:03 PM  13 years agoPost 14
cwm

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"Quote" JEZZUS PEOPLE
Why do you think wire/zip ties were invented?

For wires that are not on a vibrating rotating Ginsu Knife!!!

"Quote"
I've had zip ties on my servo wires for 5 gallons with no problems, just make them snug.

Take a close look at all your wires I bet that somewhere there will be a cut on you servo wires. If not there will be just give it time! And rember as you hovering 10 feet in front of yourself " Im sure my servo wires are fine!

The other thing that these wire ties can do is cut the wire in half in a crash if this happens to be your batt wire it can cause a lot of damage beating the hell out of itself on the ground because you cant shut it off.

Im not trying to bash any one here just expressing my opinion!

Just Fly It!!!

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12-16-2003 05:17 PM  13 years agoPost 15
garry keogh

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DrDan !

Tidy looking installation...

For what it is worth, I use spiral bind and tie it to the frames with tywraps, never had a problem.

I did notice how you tywrapped your receiver and battery with a piece of foam around them. Good idea! Make sure you have some foam between your radio tray and battery and an other piece between your battery and receiver.

The type of vibration that is likely to exist in your heli is capable of unscrewing nuts and bolts that will take you ages to put together and is EASILY CAPABLE OF WALKING A CRYSTAL OUT OF YOUR RECEIVER !!!!!

Be sure that any vibrations that do exist on the frame of the heli are well isolated from your radio.

I also just spotted your antenna unprotected from the receiver to the antenna tube on the skids. It is a good idea to thread this through some silicone fuel tube to protect it from accidental snags or chaffing off the canopy.

Just an observation

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12-16-2003 05:28 PM  13 years agoPost 16
Allora

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I use barbed wire.

Sure, the barbs are a little rough on the servo wires, but I feel the extra grip is worth it.

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12-16-2003 06:29 PM  13 years agoPost 17
fritzthecat

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Virginia Beach, VA

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Correct info above, the zip ties will cut into the wires. I too use some leftover velcro to wrap around the wire before using the ties. You also need more foam between the battery and the servo frame. Tape your rx crystal in too. Loose the big zip ties around the rx/battery package and use velcro instead. Radio Shack has velcro bands in a colorful variety pack.
Oh, no zipties on real aircraft, they are absolutely not authorized. We use waxed tiewrap string or adelclamps instead.

Fritz


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12-16-2003 06:33 PM  13 years agoPost 18
scouse

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Ive read somewhere that spiral wrap can eat into the wires over time so...why not get some fuel tubing, cut it with a stanley knife so it looks like spiral wrap then wrap it round the wires. You can then use zip ties if u wish as it will be protected by the fuel tube.
Ive used this method on mine and it looks fairly neat (well to me anyhow )

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12-16-2003 06:57 PM  13 years agoPost 19
DrDan

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Thanks all for the info.

Garry,
Thanks for the advice on the antenna. I will protect as soon as I get home. Very good observation. I never thought about that.

Thanks again all!!!

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12-16-2003 07:14 PM  13 years agoPost 20
midwestpilot

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Crystal Lake, IL

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spiral wrap...

I am anal retentive when it comes to this...so keep that in mind

I was helping a friend with neatening up the wires in his turbine plank...he had spiral wrap and I started using it. It was pretty snug and looked great... but then I needed to undo a part and add a wire and I saw dents in the wires from the edge of the spiral wrap...this was in about 30 minutes time so off it came...I will not chance it. So all who are using spiral wrap I ask you to remove it...and closely examine your wires...if you are ok with the way they look than it is your choice to put it back on. Personally I wont do it...or use zipties...I have gone to the spiral cutting of Hayes fuel line to wrap wires (cause it is black and still looks good) and velcro straps.

My take on the issue is simple...there are many folks who are saying..watch out for spiral wrap and zip ties...that alone should put up a red flag....I side a caution and safety...

But it is up to you

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Rich Erikson AMA 6175

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