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12-15-2003 10:05 AM  13 years agoPost 81
pistole

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I will say this though.

To tell someone that because you don't agree with his point of view , that he should then get out of the Country is very-very childish. If everyone who does not agree with his Government of the day has to leave ... you get the idea how stupid a proposition it is.

That and if we were to delve into history , most of those posting here from the US are immigrants themselves. So there is no need for pots and pans calling one another black.

Therefore , in short , being an 'immigrant' does not dis-entitle one to an opinion.

I would also take issue with the 'profiling' of someone stating an opinion. Whether the person stating a point of view is black , yellow , stupid , college educated or a Muslim , Jew , Redneck , etc , still entitles him to say his piece. I have often noticed that we only delve into a persons background in order , not to 'understand' his view , but in order to attack the opinion on a personalised basis.

Very poor form , that.

Lastly , I would take issue with the tone of the 'debate'. State your points and then allow others to state theirs. If you don't agree , say why you don't agree and move on.
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12-15-2003 12:58 PM  13 years agoPost 82
Woody218

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leave you alone.....hahhaha what bs is that....without the middle east oil you wouldn't function as a country d******d
And, if US oil companies had not drilled all those wells, built pipelines, built refineries, and built tanker loading facilities, you sumbitches wouldn't have anything more than sand and fig trees.


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12-15-2003 01:06 PM  13 years agoPost 83
rogers259

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I smell a troll

Guys with as heated as this is getting please keep in mind that there are people out there Trollin and lookin to pick a fight.

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12-15-2003 03:15 PM  13 years agoPost 84
Jim C

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leave you alone.....hahhaha what bs is that....without the middle east oil you wouldn't function as a country d******d
whatever..
I know that you yanks know I'm right..you are just living in denial
just goes to show what you really do know.. here ill spell it out for you.. N O T M U C H .....
To tell someone that because you don't agree with his point of view , that he should then get out of the Country is very-very childish
who told who to get out of a country?? i just reinforced that they are FREE to do so. didnt tell any body to go anywhere.
That and if we were to delve into history , most of those posting here from the US are immigrants themselves
well my ancestors were immigrants, but they at least had the decency to help build this country .. instead of whining and bitching about every little thing that gave them diaper rash.. and / or looking for a free handout.
Well I too stated the true facts! Maybe your not hiding or are you? Are you happy here in the USA? It seems like all you want to do is fight with everybody. You are actually acting like a child. But the most of all is if you don't like the way the USA is handling things, then why are you living here? That's right your putting your believes behind to live here huh?
well said MORT. especially the last sentence.
and they sit around wondering why the world hates the middle east.. people like Mork and Mindy playing hide and dont find me.
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12-15-2003 03:24 PM  13 years agoPost 85
patternfly

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Yeah, i'm happy... but nothing will make me happier than DEAD OSAMA! If i only had a chance I would skin this a** f**** d*** alive!!!

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12-15-2003 03:40 PM  13 years agoPost 86
spaceman spiff

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leave you alone.....hahhaha what bs is that....without the middle east oil you wouldn't function as a country d******d

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I just got back from a tour of colorado this weekend, miles and miles of oil wells just sitting there doing nothing, same thing in Texas, alaska is a huge oil reserve, just waiting to be tapped.

you claim to offer nothing but the facts but again it is just lame spin.

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And, if US oil companies had not drilled all those wells, built pipelines, built refineries, and built tanker loading facilities, you sumbitches wouldn't have anything more than sand and fig trees.
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Very good point woodie!

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12-15-2003 03:51 PM  13 years agoPost 87
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m&m

Where are your answeres to direct questions? there is almost nothing here but lame ass spin, and devicive inflamitory crap.

Sorry guys, looks like you are all being punked.

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12-15-2003 06:24 PM  13 years agoPost 88
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I'm happy as a pig in $hit they got the bastard.... Who here said his sons died with honor???? Honor or no honor.... They're dead and I'd piss on their graves if given the chance.... I hope they Lean on Saddam before they execute his ass.... I'm sure he knows a few things that we'd be interested in finding out.... BIN LADEN IS NEXT!!!! Even if we hadn't caught Saddam this soon... Bush WILL be president again in my eyes.....

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12-15-2003 07:29 PM  13 years agoPost 89
daggit

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I'm stating that you guys created him and you guys helped him when it suited your own interests
You are correct that the U.S. helped Saddam overthrow a bad government.

That was a hell of a long time ago with a completely different political scene. No one imagined what a tyrant Saddam would turn out to be. The future was as uncerain then as it is now.

Stating that "you guys created him" is like saying Christopher Columbus created the United States.

You have your right to say what you think, and we have the right to say you're wrong.

You're wrong

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12-15-2003 07:32 PM  13 years agoPost 90
scouse

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Who did create the US then? I thought it was the 1000's of African slaves

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12-15-2003 07:42 PM  13 years agoPost 91
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abc,cbs,nbc,cnn,fox, all of these so called news reporters are telling you everything is fine over in iraq and afghanistan, they are telling you what you want to hear and believe that everything is going well for our sake! so why don't you try some of these sites and see the real reports about what is really going on rather than rely on biased news reporting!
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com
http://www.aci.net/kalliste
http://www.rense.com
http://www.therumormillnews.com

wake up people! ken

Smile! people will wonder what you're up to!!

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12-15-2003 07:52 PM  13 years agoPost 92
spaceman spiff

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Didn't the Brits invent slaves?

Good point?! haa haaaa haaaa!!

and your point would be...?

So how about it m&m? any answeres to questions? lets hear about your home land? i suppose its history is perfect? haaa haaa!

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12-15-2003 07:54 PM  13 years agoPost 93
spaceman spiff

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flipped,

you are right, all of the dead soldgers we hear about every day are not really dead the whole thing is being staged in a movie studio in new mexico, just like the moon landing.

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12-15-2003 07:56 PM  13 years agoPost 94
z11355

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those news agencies would be the
last place to look for 'it's going fine'
information.

Of course, for you tinfoil hat wearing barking
moonbats, the truth is elusive.

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12-15-2003 07:58 PM  13 years agoPost 95
noname

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I read the following in the latest Times magazine:

" quoting a U.S. intelligence official who read the transcript of the initial interrogation report, said Saddam was taken to Baghdad airport. When asked if Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, Time said Saddam told U.S. interrogators, "No, of course not. The U.S. dreamed them up itself to have a reason to go to war with us." "

AFAIK, the reason for this war was because Iraq possessed WMD and was a threat to the whole world, so ... where are the WMD ? Unlike OBL, Saddam was never _THE_ mission ... the mission was to find these WMD and destroy them. Up to date, no evidence of WMD has been found and as far as I recall, that was the reason why the UN and other countries didn't back the war up.

The same goes for the "liberation of the iraqi people" ... that was never an issue on going to war or not ... it was later added to the mission-tasks once neither the UN inspectors nor US intelligence found/presented real evidence that iraq possessed these types of weapons.

The reason I believe the war against iraq was pronounced is because US citizens needed a placebo of some sort to loose sight on the OBL issue ... which as of right now seems to be completely forgotten.

Regarding OBL, because of the given facts its safe to assume (using logics and analogy) that OBL will "be caught", right before the 04' presidential election ... just the same way Saddam was captured when Bush's rating was falling.

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12-15-2003 07:58 PM  13 years agoPost 96
Hivoltage

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I have been watching the news and have not heard one person say that everything is alright over there, and do you expect us to read these phony news web sites you have come up with?.

Get real man!!!!!

I Dont Have No Stink'in Signature

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12-15-2003 08:08 PM  13 years agoPost 97
scouse

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Didn't the Brits invent slaves?
Probably!
lets hear about your home land? i suppose its history is perfect?
I know this wasnt targeted at me but i dont think anyones history is perfect, but we dont harp on about how pround we are to be British, how we are the goods guys and any1 against us is evil, or how we built this land and how great our ancestors where.
I just got back from a tour of colorado this weekend, miles and miles of oil wells just sitting there doing nothing, same thing in Texas, alaska is a huge oil reserve, just waiting to be tapped.
Well obviously your not gonna use up all your oil then ask if u can buy some, how about u'll steal someone elses first (or force them to sell it to u more like) then use ur massive oil reserve or sell it a whopping price? I know thats wot id do

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12-15-2003 08:35 PM  13 years agoPost 98
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i'm glad you asked about the oil Scouse

Same thing is happening with steel mils, we have plenty of steel and plenty of mills yet we buy from Japan and elsewhere.

Hmm stealing are we? if so why does OPEC exist? did we invent them too?

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12-15-2003 08:38 PM  13 years agoPost 99
spaceman spiff

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noname,

Do you really believe Sadam and his cronies?

If so then there are no American infidels in Bagdad!

we aren't even there! the "war" never even happend! so there is nothing to complain about!


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12-15-2003 08:46 PM  13 years agoPost 100
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spaceman, ironically I still believe in the "Innocent until prooven guilty" thing ... fact is no WMD has been found up till now !

BTW, its not that I support him, happens what happens its also a fact that he and his family are/where criminals and must be judged ... my comment was based on the purely open-minded person that I am ... in cases I have no problems digging into things most would not even dare to think about.

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