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06-29-2014 03:14 PM  3 years agoPost 21
HeimD

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Funny how Castle doesn't "recommend" the use of any backup units when I've never had a problem with an Ultraguard used with a Castle ESC. Finally figured out why when a Castle employee recently slipped up in an email. They're coming out with their own backup unit so they've been "not recommending" the others in the hopes that most people won't already have one when theirs hits the streets. In other words, the current units work perfectly fine with Castle ESCs.

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06-29-2014 06:06 PM  3 years agoPost 22
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I think that this recommendation came from a temporary suspicion that the Scorpion Backup and the CC Talon 90 did not play well together. Interesting to hear that CC is working on a backup solution. I have been very pleased with their products so far.

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06-29-2014 08:13 PM  3 years agoPost 23
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Why wouldn't a backup unit work with any Castle ESC? It only comes into play if the BEC line voltage drops out, RX pack fails, etc. If they were incompatible, then how does the BEC voltage not mess with the ESC? Heck, even better, how does a separate RX pack that is "always on" not mess the ESC? Answer: they don't. It all powers up the FBL/RX just the same.

Also, the makers of these backup units would have to be completely retard to not have thoroughly tested them with what's most likely the most popular line of ESCs in the hobby. Castle simply isn't "officially recommending" them because they want people to buy their own branded units which is understandable, if a bit underhanded.

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06-30-2014 02:03 AM  3 years agoPost 24
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Good to see that you have all the answers... Good for you We need people like you on forums like this as there are so many questions

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07-01-2014 12:00 AM  3 years agoPost 25
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Ultra Guard
Seen it at our local flying field, one of the local flyer also has it on his TDR. I plan to put one on my 450L but it might be a bit much for it..

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07-01-2014 11:28 PM  3 years agoPost 26
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Good to see that you have all the answers... Good for you We need people like you on forums like this as there are so many questions
Thanks for your BS sarcasm. It's oh so helpful.

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11-22-2014 01:52 PM  3 years ago •• Post 27 ••
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Let me ask a simple question. Would I have to plug/unplug it on every flight? It seems like when you unplug your main battery/ESC/BEC that it dosen't know the heli is on the table. RC connectors do not like to be unplugged a lot because of the cycle/life issue with them. So I am assuming it will need a switch placed in the circut to isolate when the heli is down for charging.

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11-22-2014 07:42 PM  3 years agoPost 28
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Hello Jerry,
No need to ever unplug it. It automatically arms when it senses voltage through the rx/fbl unit. When you power off your machine, you will see the bright LED lights flashing on the UltraGuard letting you know it has been activated due to loss of main power source. There is a small button on the side you push to turn it off.

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11-22-2014 11:40 PM  3 years agoPost 29
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When you power off your machine, you will see the bright LED lights flashing on the UltraGuard letting you know it has been activated due to loss of main power source.
IF you get the LED module(s). They're an optional feature. It's best to buy the whole package and it's not much more expensive at all. Even if the LEDs never alert you in the air, they'll alert you on the ground and you'll never forget to turn the UG off after flying. The LEDs are BRIGHT and flash like a '70s disco club. LOL

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11-23-2014 11:38 AM  3 years agoPost 30
Jerry K

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Thanks Ryan! That answers my question. I will look at adding when I see the need arrise. I will keep this unit in the memory banks

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02-11-2015 09:22 PM  3 years agoPost 31
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Is the ultra-gaurd regulated on voltage output?

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02-12-2015 04:58 AM  3 years agoPost 32
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When is Optipower supposed to release that reverse voltage blocky thingy that prevents frying your ESC/BEC?

It's definitely a "thing" since they announced it a long time ago as an "uh oh" patch device.

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02-12-2015 05:04 AM  3 years agoPost 33
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i heard nothing about that...could you explain. im about to buy one...just doing my research first.

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02-14-2015 03:27 PM  3 years agoPost 34
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Description and pictures in the links below. I don't think it's available for sale yet.

http://www.optipower.co.uk/Catalogu...20GUARD&cat=135

http://www.rcheliresource.com/opti-bec-guard/

Be aware that you'll need two of these pricey ($43USD each) units if your BEC has two power output leads to the RX/FBL unit(s). The BEC I use (Castle 20A PRO) has two leads as most of the higher output BECs do because one lead isn't rated to carry all of the current.

I also think I won't be running the BEC Guard on my largest heli with that Castle 20A BEC and a Castle 120HV ESC. I've been using the Ultraguard 430 for a long time now with zero problems. Optipower would have been STUPID to not test the Ultraguard with ESCs/BECs from what's probably the most popular company in the hobby. If Castle isn't the most popular, then it's most certainly right up there at the top. I would be extremely surprised if it ever came out that Optipower didn't test their gear with Castle gear. If they didn't and there actually were wide spread conflicts with the Ultraguard 430 and Castle components, we'd have heard about it all over the place for a long time, now. I would have also experienced problems myself.

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08-18-2015 08:17 PM  32 months agoPost 35
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Anybody been happily running the CC BEC Pro with the OptiGuard for some time now?

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08-19-2015 12:59 AM  32 months agoPost 36
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Yes. I have over 700 flights with that combo on a 550.

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08-19-2015 02:29 AM  32 months agoPost 37
Dawiev

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Yes. Combination on a number of mine and they have paid for themselves.

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08-19-2015 07:03 AM  32 months agoPost 38
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Excellent. I have the BEC Pro on 2SLiPo almost ready for a maiden but am now debating using the flight battery and maybe add a 2SLiFe buffer pack also. Reason being is I have the hungry DS610s on a HC3SX sats only, and they can brown out at 5.5V. So I set the BEC to 6.5 to leave a 0.5V margin on Optiguard, and this is perfect nominal voltage for a LiFe buffer pack. Overkill?

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08-19-2015 02:36 PM  32 months agoPost 39
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For anyone worried about "back EMF" when you disconnect your flight pack, just turn the UG off manually first. Hold the button down for a couple of seconds and then unplug the flight pack. The UG will say off and and there will be no "back EMF". Andrew of Optipower didn't include that nice little feature in the instructions. Why? Probably so he could sell $50 BEC Guards to prevent "back EMF". He avoided the question when I asked. He also did not say there was anything bad about turning it off manually. If there truly were, he'd have been all over it saying why to protect his BEC Guard sales since "preventing back EMF" is a major advertised feature.

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