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02-20-2014 08:58 PM  3 years agoPost 1
aashu

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My 1st 3 blade project. As topic says, Do I also need a Gyro with it for tail ?

I read about this new product which seems to suggest gyro not needed.

http://www.bavariandemon.com/en/

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02-20-2014 09:51 PM  3 years agoPost 2
soulrider911

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No you dont, it is a gyro, the rudder channel has gain controls in the units software, as well as physical pods.

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02-20-2014 10:25 PM  3 years agoPost 3
FRANK R

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To the OP, your post clearly shows BeastX on your question, but you posted a link that shows Bavarian Demon!????... FYI, BeastX can be used as Standalone Gyro, If that's what you're referring to. You can purchase an adaptor to use it as a Gyro only! But if you are using it as FBL controller, obviously you don't need a separate Gyro.

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02-21-2014 12:29 AM  3 years agoPost 4
aashu

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Thanks

I am more interested in BeastX, link was only to mention that the product does have gyro and was wondering if Beastx has too.

Now another question. There is one unit called AR7200x (black) and then there are these microbeast. Whats the catch ?

And do they work with all receivers ? (I use Airtronics SG10)

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02-21-2014 01:07 AM  3 years agoPost 5
FRANK R

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So the BeastX is a FBL system and all FBL systems include Gyro.

AR7200BX is a Spektrum product which is an integrated BeastX with DSMX/DSM2, 7channel receiver in one. (Spektrum has licensed the use of BeastX from MicroBeast). So if you have an AR7200BX, you do not need a separate receiver or a separate gyro. So if you want to use your own receiver. You should be using the MicroBeast BeastX, not the Spektrum AR7200BX.

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02-21-2014 05:04 PM  3 years agoPost 6
aashu

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thanks

This was very useful information. Performancewise, they both should be same I guess.

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02-21-2014 08:23 PM  3 years agoPost 7
mousie

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aashu, I just converted to f.lybarless and Iam using the beast x with my airtronics rds8000. Works flawless, just used your airtronics receiver and plug the jumper wires included with the beast into it and run the setup menu, very simple and works great

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02-21-2014 08:39 PM  3 years agoPost 8
aashu

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thx

Will do that. Hunting for a receiver first
All receivers got used up already

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02-22-2014 04:57 AM  3 years agoPost 9
dkshema

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Flybarless controllers are 3-axis controllers. This means they have a gyro function to look after pitch (fore/aft or "elevator" cyclic), roll ("aileron" ) cyclic, and yaw (the anti-torque -- tail rotor) control.

You do NOT need to use an external or additional gyro to take care of the tail, as that function is built-in to the FBL controller.

The BeastX is a 3-axis flybarless controller. As such, it has the built-in tail rotor gyro. It is the orange unit you refer to, but has no receiver built-in.

As far as flybarless controllers in general go, only one at present has a built-in receiver. That is the Spektrum AR7200BX, the black unit you refer to. This unit is a 7-channel Spektrum DSMx receiver that has a BeastX flybarless controller built into the same box as the receiver. If you have a JR or Spektrum DSMx/DSM2 transmitter, it will bind to, and work with that transmitter. For helis larger than 450 size, the AR7200BX accepts an input from one external JR/Spektrum DSMx satellite receiver to improve radio signal coverage.

As you are flying an Airtronics radio, the AR7200BX is NOT an option for you; its built-in receiver is not compatible with your transmitter.

All OTHER flybarless controllers (BeastX, Ikon, Brain, V-Bar, 3GX, Tarot ZYX, Robird, Bavarian Demon, Futaba CGY 750...) MUST be connected to some form of external receiver as they do NOT include any built-in receiver function. They are strictly the flybarless controller unit. Unless you supply a receiver, they are useless.

In general, the receiver used in conjunction with these controllers can be either your existing standard receiver, or most will allow you to plug JR/Spektrum satellite receivers directly into the controller unit. In the latter case, the satellite devices ARE the receiver, and the controller unit knows how to decode the data coming from the satellite connector and how to use it.

Since you have an Airtronics radio, you will need to use your existing Airtronics receiver with whatever controller you end up with, and it will be connected to the controller using the cables typically included in the controller box. The inputs to the controller are connected to the servo outputs of your receiver.

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02-22-2014 03:42 PM  3 years agoPost 10
RM3

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aashu!...

...Gesundheit.

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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02-24-2014 11:58 AM  3 years agoPost 11
doorman

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BeastX

One thing I did not see mentioned.
When you purchase the BeastX, you will also need to get the (optional) interface cable..
You will need this to set the phasing for your 3 blade head.
I have the BX on a 2/3/&5 bladed heads, and it does a nice job!!

Good Luck
Stan

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02-25-2014 11:58 AM  3 years agoPost 12
aashu

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thanks all

Very good information everyone.
I will be buying a separate receiver, beastx unit and interface cable. Will pop some questions back if I am doubtful. Doing lot of reading from previous threads as well

Garden State, NJ

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