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02-21-2014 11:36 PM  3 years agoPost 181
tommytt1

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Mercerville, NJ, USA

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Absolutely
I have been told by folks directly at Mikado that Pro software is not used by everyone. Not by a LONG shot. Percentage I do not know but it is not like 90% that do. Much lower I was lead to believe.
Mikado is not Apple and does not active a iPhone every 1.687 seconds on the planet or what ever super lower number it is. I know when the iPad came out there was an article in NewsWeek that said only restraint for Apple was how fast they could make them...
The vbar as it is the PREMIER flybarless unit (to me) we are in a industry so much smaller it is unreal. The folks at Mikado make their LIVING from the products we buy. I have for the LIFE of me NEVER figured out why folks think software should be FREE. It took some guy or guys HUNDRED of hours to write and troubleshoot it for you. The DESERVE to make a LIVING. Apple gives away free updates to one up Google and they have so many sales from different products some products that sell at unreal profit margins finance the others. Plain and simple.
Mikado offers THE BEST FBL system at a great price. If you don't want to pay for pro then don't. Those folks deserve to take their kids to McDonalds too...

I made a mistake once, but I was wrong?

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02-21-2014 11:45 PM  3 years agoPost 182
Dennis Carey

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Kansas City

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Great post Norman.

Do we all understand the "if you want it buy it" concept vs the "I want it but don't want to pay for it so I'll get on the internet and whine about it" over and over concept?

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02-21-2014 11:47 PM  3 years agoPost 183
wc_wickedclown (RIP)

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long beach calif

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Those folks deserve to take their kids to McDonalds
at 50 bucks a pilot id hope he is taking the kids to the red lobster

50 bucks is to much for an update and the update does not come on cd disk so they are saving more money

Insha Allah made in america

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02-21-2014 11:56 PM  3 years agoPost 184
McKrackin

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Lucasville,Ohio

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I have for the LIFE of me NEVER figured out why folks think software should be FREE. It took some guy or guys HUNDRED of hours to write and troubleshoot it for you. The DESERVE to make a LIVING. Apple gives away free updates to one up Google and they have so many sales from different products some products that sell at unreal profit margins finance the others. Plain and simple.

Mikado offers THE BEST FBL system at a great price. If you don't want to pay for pro then don't. Those folks deserve to take their kids to McDonalds too...
That has NOTHING to do with what I said.
I NEVER said it should be free.
I have said over and over and over and over again...Sell the Pro version at an elevated price...Just sell it already installed.

It would cost no more to install the Pro software as it would the Express...Nothing extra whatsoever.

If you don't want the Pro,buy the Express.
If sometime down the road you want the Pro software,BUY IT>

If you know you want the Pro software at the time you buy the V Bar...Why can't you just buy the thing that way?
Why should the very first thing you ever do with a product be to modify it?

Give people the option to save $10 by buying the V Bar already in the Pro configuration.

You guys always preach about options being a good thing...Well let's add one that would probably make them more money...Let's face it,if you could buy a V Bar that was already Pro,more people would buy it...Why buy a half finished product?

I literally never use the word literally right.

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02-22-2014 12:01 AM  3 years agoPost 185
Ronald Thomas

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Gainesville, Fl, USA

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Great Posts Ryan and Norman…..

Somehow a small few have turned this into nothing about what it was intended…..usual suspects
Look at it this way, If you don't want to pay the $39 (yes it is $39 as the euro dropped compared to the dollar), then don't. Go find another FBL system that will give you a gov, logging, vibe analyzer, voltage watch, setup wizard, Auto trim, optimizers that tune your heli, the ability to adapt to any heli, the BEST support around, round the clock people who can help with setup all for $259 (MiniV + pro)….oh, you can't
There is a reason Mikado has been successful and will continue to be…..they know what they are doing…..

Team MikadoUSA 480XXTreme, 550SX, 600SX, 700XXTreme, 800XXTreme!!

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02-22-2014 12:01 AM  3 years agoPost 186
es1co2bar3

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winnetka california

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I think they should made the dam gadget flawless with all working perimeter and interval/interface, and cut out the BS it got this but you have to purchase that so it can work.

that a game of moneypoly to me with the update crap
they want the unit to sold at $500 so they retail it for 250 half done and charge the other $250 in update.

I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,

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02-22-2014 12:05 AM  3 years agoPost 187
D.Magee

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kansas city mo.

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Lets see what was this trend about???
O I remember new v-bar control radio

Teameagles@HaveFun

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02-22-2014 12:23 AM  3 years agoPost 188
mr dan

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Stockton Calif

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There is a difference between"Software" and "Firmware" . Most flybarless manufactures have their software completed and updates are made to the "Firmware" at no cost to the consumer. This is what I am referring to. Why does Mikado do this?

"R.I.P Roman" Citizen 0094 in the Nation

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02-22-2014 12:24 AM  3 years agoPost 189
Pascal-KC

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Kansas City, KS, USA

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@ es1co2bar3: you have made your point already... We got it the first time. If Mikado makes you sick: stay away from them. There are plenty of decent options out there.

Team Mikado, Team Revolectrix, KBDD Team Pilot

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02-22-2014 12:27 AM  3 years agoPost 190
es1co2bar3

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winnetka california

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Some folks just cant mind their own business and I wonder why?....." we was talking about a whole host of thing from mikado that they shouldn't do like they had done in the past and are doing today.

I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,

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02-22-2014 12:29 AM  3 years agoPost 191
es1co2bar3

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winnetka california

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I spend alot of money on those ugrade and I 'm P O over that for it's ridiculous at 1st glance, I could see them doing the same thing with this hot new gadget.

I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,

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02-22-2014 12:32 AM  3 years agoPost 192
Ronald Thomas

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You spent $50 (your words) and that makes you mad? You didn't get a bag of rocks for the $50…you got extras that you can't get anywhere else for that price...

Team MikadoUSA 480XXTreme, 550SX, 600SX, 700XXTreme, 800XXTreme!!

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02-22-2014 12:35 AM  3 years agoPost 193
Pascal-KC

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Kansas City, KS, USA

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@ es1co2bar3: if you did not know what you were getting into when you elected to buy a V-Bar, you should have done your own research. If you knew what you were getting into, quit complaining and move on. You are losing your audience: your show is just too repetitive...

Team Mikado, Team Revolectrix, KBDD Team Pilot

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02-22-2014 12:35 AM  3 years agoPost 194
Retired2011

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Lee's Summit, MO

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Great Posts Ryan and Norman…..
Yes, finally a little sanity to this thread!

I don't know why I keep reading it...I guess it's because it has become like a comic strip...
Why don't the haters just go read about the things they DO like?

Chet

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02-22-2014 01:10 AM  3 years agoPost 195
RyanW

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Edmond, Oklahoma

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Last thing I have to say about the whole 'upgrade' thing...

1) Updates are FREE on the VBar. My old VBar from 2009 has been updated through all of the versions they have released V4 whatever to V5.3. I have never had to pay for any software update. Someone please correct me if I am wrong here, but I don't think so. So everyone can stop complaining about not having free updates. They are free and they have been free.

Okay... back on the original topic!!!

-Ryan
Mikado USA, Kontronik, Opti-Power, MKS Servos

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02-22-2014 01:16 AM  3 years agoPost 196
es1co2bar3

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winnetka california

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If I know now then what I know now I would get me a few spartan/Icon/ skookum whatever and all the other stuff you get free download for. I've 4 V_bar 2 min and 2 full size. I had to buy the upgrade for all of them 5.this 5.that) that kinda BS, and that frekin twice and they had to be purchased separately when they should have us paid once and use it for all of them.

Remember the Vbar don't work that great strait from the factory, they did this on purpose knowingly we have to buy the upgrade if we want the bird to fly topnotch.

That's all am saying and that's wrong they have the ability to do it rights once and not galvanized more of our cash.

I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,

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02-22-2014 01:22 AM  3 years agoPost 197
Ghostrider

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If I paypal the complainers $50 each, will you promise to go away from all V-bar topics for ever???

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02-22-2014 01:24 AM  3 years agoPost 198
RyanW

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Edmond, Oklahoma

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Ghostrider- PM me your PayPal, there is a line backing up waiting to chip in

-Ryan
Mikado USA, Kontronik, Opti-Power, MKS Servos

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02-22-2014 01:27 AM  3 years agoPost 199
Ronald Thomas

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Gainesville, Fl, USA

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Remember the Vbar don't work that great strait from the factory, they did this on purpose knowingly we have to buy the upgrade if we want the bird to fly topnotch.
That is a total fabrication. They fly identically with express or pro. This has been hashed before...

Team MikadoUSA 480XXTreme, 550SX, 600SX, 700XXTreme, 800XXTreme!!

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02-22-2014 01:28 AM  3 years agoPost 200
jbdww

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Ghostrider- Just go ahead and put your paypal on this thread.

Skids Up
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