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02-17-2014 03:30 PM  3 years agoPost 1
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Tens of Thousands Ignore New Gun Law; Officials 'Shocked'

By Harford Courant February 17, 2014

Everyone knew there would be some gun owners flouting the law that legislators hurriedly passed last April, requiring residents to register all military-style rifles with state police by Dec. 31.

But few thought the figures would be this bad.

By the end of 2013, state police had received 47,916 applications for assault weapons certificates, Lt. Paul Vance said. An additional 2,100 that were incomplete could still come in.

That 50,000 figure could be as little as 15 percent of the rifles classified as assault weapons owned by Connecticut residents, according to estimates by people in the industry, including the Newtown-based National Shooting Sports Foundation. No one has anything close to definitive figures, but the most conservative estimates place the number of unregistered assault weapons well above 50,000, and perhaps as high as 350,000.


And that means as of Jan. 1, Connecticut has very likely created tens of thousands of newly minted criminals -- perhaps 100,000 people, almost certainly at least 20,000 -- who have broken no other laws. By owning unregistered guns defined as assault weapons, all of them are committing Class D felonies.

"I honestly thought from my own standpoint that the vast majority would register," said Sen. Tony Guglielmo, R-Stafford, the ranking GOP senator on the legislature's public safety committee. "If you pass laws that people have no respect for and they don't follow them, then you have a real problem."

The problem could explode if Connecticut officials decide to compare the list of people who underwent background checks to buy military-style rifles in the past, to the list of those who registered in 2013. Do they still own those guns? The state might want to know.

"A lot of it is just a question to ask, and I think the firearms unit would be looking at it," said Mike Lawlor, the state's top official in criminal justice. "They could send them a letter."

An aggressive hunt isn't going to happen, Lawlor said, but even the idea of letters is a scary thought considering thousands of people are now in an uncomfortable position. At the least, the legislature should reopen the registration period this year with an outreach campaign designed to boost the numbers.

It could be a tough sell. On Thursday night, Guglielmo heard from a constituent at a meeting in Ashford, who said most of his friends with military-style rifles such as AR-15s had not come forward.

"He made the analogy to prohibition," Guglielmo said. "I said, 'You're talking about civil disobedience, and he said 'Yes.' "

But it's not just refusers. A reopened registration would help many who failed to come forward out of ignorance.

"There are a lot of people, they just do not know about this law," said Scott Wilson, president of the 12,000-member Connecticut Citizens Defense League, a Second Amendment advocacy group. "There are people finding out now after the fact."

The law was widely covered in the media and Wilson said his group sent information to its members. But gun owners can be an independent bunch.

Guglielmo, who voted against the sweeping gun control bill, said he intends to raise the concern at the next meeting of the public safety committee. Lawlor said Gov. Dannel P. Malloy's administration is willing to talk about solutions.

But Lawlor, an undersecretary in the state Office of Policy and Management, said that even if many thousands of guns remain unregistered and are now illegal, the law is not necessarily failing at its goal.

"Like anything else, people who violate the law face consequences. ... that's their decision. The consequences are pretty clear. ...There's nothing unique about this," Lawlor said. "The goal is to have fewer of these types of weapons in circulation."

The law was adopted after the December 2012 massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School. Its main provision was a dramatic expansion of guns classified as assault weapons banned for sale in the state. The ban now includes any semiautomatic firearm -- that is, one that reloads a round after each pull of the trigger -- if it has even a single military-style characteristic, such as a pistol grip.

Any semiautomatic firearm banned for sale could remain legal if its owner registered it by Dec. 31. Those that were made before the state's first assault rifle law in 1993, and were not deemed to be assault weapons in that law, do not have to be registered.

The AR-15, a type of rifle, not a brand, is among those that must be registered and represents 50 percent to 60 percent of all rifle sales in the United States in recent years, federal figures show.

Sorting out the number of potential new felons is a guessing game. State police have not added up the total number of people who registered the 50,000 firearms, Vance said. So even if we knew the number of illegal guns in the state, we'd have a hard time knowing how many owners they had.

And it's all made even harder by the fact that the April 2013 law also required owners to declare ammunition magazines that hold more than 10 rounds, under penalty of a felony charge. Magazines are impossible to track because they have no serial numbers. The state received 36,932 declarations of these high-capacity magazines by the deadline, Vance said. An additional 1,277 were sent back for more information.

Each of those magazine declarations is a person, not a magazine. The state police firearms unit has not added up the number of magazines, Vance said.

As for the numbers out in circulation, in 2011 the nonpartison Office of Legislative Research said there were more than 2 million high-capacity magazines in Connecticut, based in industry information from the National Shooting Sports Foundation.

That same legislative report cited a foundation estimate that there were, at the time, 1.2 million rifles in Connecticut, based on national sales and manufacturing figures. Of those, 372,000 used high-capacity magazines, making it very likely that they were in the class of weapons affected by the 2013 law. There are some rifles using high-capacity magazines that are not classified as assault weapons in Connecticut, but not many, said Jake McGuigan, director of government relations at NSSF.

Since 2011, the gun industry has enjoyed record sales. So that number, if it's accurate, would be much higher today. If there are 350,000 unregistered assault rifles in the state, and the average owner had three of them -- a conservative guess because the vast majority own one or possibly two, Wilson said -- that would be more than 100,000 people violating the law.

For a more conservative estimate, McGuigan looks at the number of background checks made for residents buying rifles from retailers. Between Nov. 30, 1998, and Oct. 31, 2013, there were 460,000 such checks. About 25 percent of all rifles sold in that period were AR-15s, implying that the number in Connecticut could be 115,000. But the number of background checks for rifles exploded in the past three years, precisely the time when the AR-15 was extremely popular.

Those registration numbers do not include private sales of rifles, which only become subject to background checks and registration in April of this year.

The number of newly illegal guns in Connecticut might have been reduced in several ways. Gun owners could have sold their military-style rifles privately to people outside the state, or sold rifles back to retailers, or destroyed them or turned them in to the police after last April's law.

Guglielmo also said some people told him they have moved guns to relatives and second homes out of state. And Wilson said some gun owners left the state altogether, disgruntled.

But it's highly unlikely that all of those categories taken together represent the bulk of unregistered guns.

Vance compared the noncompliance to motor vehicle registrations, in which some people choose not to follow the law and pay the consequences. Lawlor compared it to speeding -- the law is still the law even if many people flout it. But those are infractions and, at worst, misdemeanors. Here we're talking about turning otherwise law-abiding citizens into felons.

NSSF has no position on the compliance rate, McGuigan said, because the group, which represents retailers and manufacturers, doesn't believe the registration law can ever be effective. He cited federal figures showing that one murder -- one -- was committed in Connecticut with a rifle between 2004 and the Newtown tragedy. "I don't even know if it was an AR-15."

Wilson said his group did not encourage people to defy the law, but he added, "If there are people out there that chose not to register, I sympathize with that perspective."

Some want the law repealed, but that debate is over. We have a registration law for better or worse, and now with the deadline passed, we have a new problem. As Guglielmo pointed out, it's hard to think of an issue Malloy would less rather deal with in an election year. A reopening of the registration period would reopen emotional debates.

Regardless, lawmakers should not ignore the stark fact that there are now enough people in serious violation of Connecticut gun laws to fill a small town at least, a very big town more likely and perhaps as many as live in the state's largest cities.

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02-17-2014 06:52 PM  3 years agoPost 2
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Just say NO TO UNCONSTITUTIONAL LAWS. God bless and be with them all. Vote the b@stards out!

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02-18-2014 01:26 AM  3 years agoPost 3
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Typical rouge politicians creating laws without a vote from the people...

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02-18-2014 12:39 PM  3 years agoPost 4
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Nope, this is not a win for freedom. Haven't any of you been through a gun ban before?

They don't need everyone to turn in their weapons, they are not "shocked". They just made a criminal out of everyone that didn't abide by the law.

They are going to get the criminals sooner or later.

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02-18-2014 02:10 PM  3 years agoPost 5
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They just made a criminal out of everyone that didn't abide by the law.
That is all they did. It would have been nice to see almost no one register their "assault rifles". Simply getting people to register any firearms is going to do nothing to stop the random nut jobs from committing criminal acts. Laws only keep honest people honest.

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02-18-2014 04:22 PM  3 years agoPost 6
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Laws only keep honest people honest.
Laws also help to add more sentence to a criminals jail time.

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02-18-2014 04:46 PM  3 years agoPost 7
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So Then Psy Co : It Become's a Matter of : PERSPECTIVE = Doesn't it ??

Why are Sales of the Personal Protective Defensive Element OFF- THE HOOK ??

WHom is Purchasing ???

The WHy ?? do they feel it is now a absolutely ?

At one time it was " To PROTECT and Serve " Pre -Reactionary

Sheep Dog's guarding the SHeep = SAFETY and SECURITY

Now ???? It is mainly POST - Reactionary : Bag it Tag It call some one
THe Service as changed

AMERICAN's NOW feel it is Necessary - That was NEVER BEFORE

What has grown it ? - Where is the Breakdown - Why Necessary ?

Not a Political Party Platform

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02-20-2014 04:53 AM  3 years agoPost 8
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Hey psycho what if they outlawed RC vehicles of a certain type... or # of rotors..Or the ability to smack down 3d.

I bet some would like a high capacity ban on rotor blades.. If it can load more then one blade in its rotor, then thats too much..

I'd personally like to try the "The 2nd amendment only is meant for hunting with a nitro 30, so your 700 sized electric needs 550mm wood blades to be legal"

I could go on

Would you and any other good liberal amongst us just trot on down to your trusty FED bureaucrat/politician with your name and addy to be put on a future RC fun confiscation list?

I would be hiding helis at friends/relative houses and everyone with half a brain would do the same

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02-20-2014 12:44 PM  3 years agoPost 9
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Before adding to the hundreds of laws pertaining to firearms, they should try actual enforcing the current laws with the strictest sentences possible. It is not a gun problem. I've said it before, I'll say it again. You could take away every single gun and people would still find a way to do harm to others. They would simply use some other tool to do the job!

The world is yours!

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02-20-2014 12:52 PM  3 years agoPost 10
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Laws also help to add more sentence to a criminals jail time.
Right. And one of the biggest problem with the whole thing is that the federal government doesn't want to pay to enforce the laws already on the books or to pay to keep their criminals in jail for the full term.
More laws just results in more lawyers!

Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about!

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02-20-2014 03:49 PM  3 years agoPost 11
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I think this video says a lot!

Watch at YouTube

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