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02-18-2014 08:31 PM  3 years agoPost 81
RM3

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Now that there folks is a quality response I would expect from a good manufacturer...

hope the 3d gasser is a success.

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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02-18-2014 10:11 PM  3 years agoPost 82
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Airstar International 3D Pro-G

New Pics are up! Check them out on our website and this thread as well..

https://rc.runryder.com/helicopter/...1/?p=6254678#RR

http://www.airstarintl.com/index.ph...tar/3d-pro.html

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02-18-2014 10:46 PM  3 years agoPost 83
chickens2252

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Stating that it is Aircraft Grade is fine. But in my opinion you'll entice people better with what you just wrote.

"We make extensive use of 6061-T6 aluminum alloy"

If you use a harder alloy and it's not a trade secret state that too and why. In a hobby like this if I have to Google it shows that you put thought into the material and not just the design. And Aircraft grade is played out.

Heck Maglite was Aircraft grade.

Sweet looking heli FYI.

Tighten it tell it loosens then back it off a quarter

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02-19-2014 04:41 AM  3 years agoPost 84
rhodesengr

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New Pics are up!
can you post some photos of the FBL head without the canopy so we can see the head design and servo layout. What is the 3D performance like?

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02-19-2014 05:07 AM  3 years agoPost 85
ChapaWolf

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Hey guys there is an online poll on what Matt should build next if you want a gasser let him know!

Poll Link

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02-20-2014 12:36 AM  3 years agoPost 86
Airstar Intl

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Airstar International 3D Pro-G

Here are some pictures of the Servos/Swash. We use the same servo tray and set up that the Mongoose, Evolution, and Jetcopter all use. It's a 4 Point CCPM, 90 Degree Swash Plate. We can make a swash for 120 degree CCPM, but generally don't recommend it.




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02-20-2014 03:30 AM  3 years agoPost 87
RM3

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what are the specs on that bird....flying weight, drive ratio, fuel capacity, main/feathering/tail shaft diameter..blade grip capacity...

something we can use to judge flight performance...

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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02-20-2014 04:02 AM  3 years agoPost 88
Rick~K

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I hope everyone finds a replacement to their MA heli. I'm not in that boat but came were close to buying one. I know how I'd feel if I lost my favorite copter.

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02-20-2014 04:11 AM  3 years agoPost 89
turboomni

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I hope everyone finds a replacement to their MA heli. I'm not in that boat but came were close to buying one. I know how I'd feel if I lost my favorite copter.
I am and many others are in "that boat" it is ok,,,for now. I will be flying my 1005 gasser circa 1995 and my Spectra ,,even though Min Air will be closing.. I will not replace any of my Min Airs with any other gassers untill I have too. That will be some time... People who are abandoning their Whiplash heli's are premature in my mind.,,,,,Wait it out and see what happens,,,,don't just change the channel. Be patient .....

Setup is everything, All my heli's can fly far better than I can pilot them

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02-20-2014 04:26 AM  3 years agoPost 90
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Airstar International 3D Pro-G Specs

Here are the Specs so far on the 3D Pro Gasser.

Flying Weight - Approximately 13 lbs
(Standard Mongoose Weighs approximately 16.5 lbs)
Drive Ratio - 9.03:1 (Customizable)
Fuel Capacity - 12 oz (Customizable)
Main Shaft Diameter - 12mm
Spindle Shaft Diameter - 8mm
Tail Shaft Diameter - 5mm
Blade Grip Width Capacity - 17.4mm

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02-20-2014 07:01 PM  3 years agoPost 91
RM3

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you sure about that 13 lbs. ?

a Flybarred radikal G30 (700 class) fully loaded is 12.6 lbs...and its using the PUH engine (lighter) and has a light weight Carbon fiber frame...

The late Whiplash gasser FBL also a 700 class with Carbon Fiber frame and with a RC format engine is kissing 13 lbs without fuel...

I don't see how your 800 class gasser runnning a RC format engine and thick Aluminum frames, four servo cyclic, muti belt drive, is aprx 13 lbs... maybe 14 - 15 lbs fully loaded.

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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02-20-2014 07:21 PM  3 years agoPost 92
Airstar Intl

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Airstar 3D PRO

Let me get it on the scale to confirm total weight with 1/4 tank of fuel. I will be posting pics

Shane Buxman
Team Airstar

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02-20-2014 07:25 PM  3 years agoPost 93
Pistol Pete

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Hmmm...who flies a gasser with a 1/4 tank?

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02-20-2014 07:28 PM  3 years agoPost 94
JKos

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> Hmmm...who flies a gasser with a 1/4 tank?

Most people weigh their birds empty. So having a 1/4 tank while weighing in at 13.2 lbs means it actually ways about 13 lbs just like he said.

- John

RR rules!

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02-20-2014 07:32 PM  3 years agoPost 95
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Airstar 3D PRO

That is just the amount of fuel that was left in it from the last flight.

Also as far as I know in my many years of experience the manufactures only post dry weight and here I am showing you with some fuel in it and the flight battery and RX as well.

Shane Buxman
Team Airstar

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02-20-2014 07:47 PM  3 years agoPost 96
RM3

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Well must be 13 lbs...the surprizes never stop

people are hungy for a 13lb gasser...thats what the Whiplash G was...if the weights are indeed the same with the capacity to run modded RC engines AND 800 class blades...you guys need to get your site upgraded with videos, pics and PDFs and put some more glam into advertizing cause this puppy can easily take the lead in quality gassers with a made in the USA stamp to boot.

do it quick too...tax returns will begin pooring in come mid march.

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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02-20-2014 07:59 PM  3 years agoPost 97
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Well Shane, if you turned RM3 around, its a winner for sure.
Also as far as I know in my many years of experience the manufactures only post dry weight and here I am showing you with some fuel in it and the flight battery and RX as well.
Im familiar with the dry weight but Im interested more in the ready to fly weight. Thanks for all the details and prompt responses.

So in essense about 13.5 lbs with 12oz of fuel and thats great.

Now I need to decide if getting a 30cc Stearman or a larger gasser...decisions, decisions...maybe both?

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02-20-2014 08:59 PM  3 years agoPost 98
bustedmp

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The op asked what other dedicated gassers were out there now that MA is out. Airstar is an option, one that is produced in the USA, and the only thing a few of you can do is doubt it with no first hand knowledge of it.

The world is yours!

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02-20-2014 09:50 PM  3 years agoPost 99
RM3

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doubts are expected...I can't find but one or two low quality vids of what I guess is soft 3D...just not much out there...

nothing out there compared to the Whiplash vids and much less the OMG edition of the Radikal...

plus there were no specs on Airstars website.

we know Bergen has a sub 13lb gasser that works awesome (intrepid ?)...but without advertisement and vids to support claims of their comparable flight performance to top 3D performers what else to we have to go on?

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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02-21-2014 12:44 AM  3 years agoPost 100
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Just FYI

And not that it really matters but my whiplash is 12lbs 10oz and that includes a generator system in it. Without the generator it would have been closer to 12 1/4 pounds as I have two LEDs as well headlight/taillight that add some more weight.

That is the dry weight.

-=>Raja.

MA 1005 Hanson 280, 4129 flts
Spectra 27 3DMax, 3187 flts
Whiplash V1 Hanson 300, 1425 flts
Whiplash V2 Hanson 300, 185 flts

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